Cubes Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Finally I found some thing based on AUS oil filters. After having a Ryco oil filter in for 500km's on the new motor I decided to do a filter change and cut it apart. I found a damn piece of black sticky/elec tape in there. Lots of specs of pink flakes (assume its from the pink marker that was used to write on the crank etc) and a few really really really small bits of silver. The filter looked distorted as if some of the pleats were stuck together while others had a large gap between them.. The pleats in the Motorcraft & Ryco filter elements are too close together which makes it very difficult for the oil to flow through properly to achieve full flow. What tends to take place is that the pleats are pushed apart in some sections giving the filter a "Tunneling" effect (see photo). This means the oil flow is not evenly distributed and the oil can only pass though some of the media (rule of less resistance). http://www.aus-cartalk.com/auspoc/techstuff.htm I currently have a PureONE filter installed and will cut that appart to see what it looks like in another 500km's. Does any one know where in AUS we can find the Mobile 1 Oil Filters? They seem to be the one to get according to many many sources. I've checked out the web site bobistheoilguy.com and stumbled upon this pressure drop across oil filters test. http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultima...ic;f=6;t=000513 Another link that branches off to study's. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread...ghlight=oil+faq It appears Amsoil oil is possibly the very best oil one could buy. Oil filters.. Mobil 1, PureOne are also up there. Amsoil also is a very good filter. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
gts4diehard Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 How about trying the nissan ones also, they are cheap at about $8, usually cheaper than all the other brands. Stephen Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1075480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knore Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 anyone know a good supplier/stocker of Nismo oil filters in australia? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1075591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAPCAB Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Speaking of oil filters; i had a bit of an experience with one a few weeks ago. Needed to do an oil change, so emptied old oil, and removed old oil filter. Popped in a new oil filter, and filled up new oil. Start up the car after the oil change, and i can hear this bubbling/gurgling noise. Not good i thought.....turned the car off. Had a look under the car, oil pissing out from somewhere. Check the sump, its ok. Checked oil filter, and there was oil leaking from the bottom of it. Tightened it up as hard as possible, turned on car again. still pissing out oil. Lost about 3-4 litres just getting the car out the driveway and across the road! since all the oil had pissed out anyways, i thought i gotta get this damn oil filter off. Tried getting it off but it was covered in oil, eventually managed to get it off. The problem was that the oil filter had no rubber gasket thingo on it, so there was no seal between the oil filter and the screw on fitting. Cheap ass ryco filter! Waste of 4 and a bit litres of Motul Turbolight aswell. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1075754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 lol.. The ryco rubber bits are not secured in very tight. I had mine fall out once when fitting it. I'm going to try a cooper from the local Autobarn. I will cut that open and check it out also. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1075764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRHETTx Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 You not meant to tighten the oil filter as tight as you can, just so its firm. The rubber gasket might break if you do. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1075811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 The rubber O-ring in the ryco's fall out fairly easy. 3/4 of a turn is what is recommended. I generally put a dab of oil on the o-ring then do it up nice and firm with my left hand which works out 3/4 of a turn. I don't think you can break the rubber O-ring. But overtightening will cause it to leak or seep. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1075901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busky2k Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Ryco is nasty shit. I wouldnt touch it with a 10 foot pole. Ive had too many whose anti drain back valves just dont bloody work so it takes the engine 5 seconds to rebuild oil pressure during a cold startup. Even some chinese cheapies dont do it... You cant get Mobil 1 filters here unfortuantely. I have had good luck with Valvoline filters, despite them being 1/2 the price of a Ryco. If you want the highest quality, K&N are great, but at $30 filter, its pretty hardcore!! Probably the best filters are still the OEM one!! The Nissan one is excellent.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1076545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 I will be going Nissan filters.. Here is an interesting study that looks at the pressure drop after the oil filter. http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultima...ic;f=6;t=000513 The K&N rates up there fairly high at the moment but they still have a little way to go before they get the study correct. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1076573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 I have a few valvoline filters (used) sitting @ home. Would a hacksaw be able to cut it in half? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1077138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 They will... I broke 2 blades cutting through 1 oil filter. Unsure why I think the father inlaw bought el' cheapo blades on special I've pulled the PureOne Oil filter off. I'll rip it apart and post some pics. I've got pics of my ryco one as well. Although not the best pics of the ryco one but they will do. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1077793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 ok then I'll cut through a few of mine over the weekend. All are valvoline's and all done roughly 5,000km's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1077797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtst25 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 I hate ryco's after losing the rubber seal once - and they don't usually have a plastic cover over threaded end. Go the nissan or valvoline. I allways use the valvoline Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1077932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 I always thought of the valvoline as a cheapy. They apparently have a thin filter. Highflow but low filtration. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1077975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Would it be of any benefit for me to cut open a new valvoline filter? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1078002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 Depends on your own curiosity. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1078027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Are the Valvoline filters usually available from Autobarn? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1078031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 Not sure.. I know you can get them from the SuperCheap Auto. We have an autobarn here in Adelaide that stocks all high performance bits turbo's, EBC's etc.. Then there's every other Autobarn that has just the usual bits so it really depends on the Autobarn. All the other Autobarns I've seen only have the Cooper & Ryco oil filters. Milend I think it is has the Purulator Premium, PureOne, Coopers, Ryco's and maybe another one I can't remember. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1078037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Valvoline ones I buy from Supercheap. They are under $10. After reading that link your posted Joel, I might switch over to the cooper's. I wonder how much & well the nissan ones are. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1078038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubes Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 Did you also check out this thread of a bloke who's setting up a oil pressure drop testing machine thinga majig.. http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultima...ic;f=6;t=000513 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/55103-oil-filter-review-ryco-valvoline-etc/#findComment-1078040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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