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i just dont understand why people spend $500-800 on a good exhaust and dont even blink but then can't part with th money when it comes to something like coils or injectors???

So what if it does the power on stock injectors, why would you want to, ther are cheap in relevance to everything else you have modified to get to that power level??? Let me get this right,

turbo and associated piping- $2000

ECU and Install- $2500

Intercooler, exhaust, cams, cam gears and other assciated good- $2000

Expecting your engine to last at high power levels with piss poor 370cc injectors,

PRICELESS.

There are some things money can't buy, but injectors shouldnt be one of them...

built motor $7K

turbo + Bits $5K

cooler $2K

ecu $2k

Diff $1k

clutch $1.2K

Fuel System $1.3k

the one thing i dont need .... bigger injectors i dont need them.

some things in life you should not coment on, for others think before you type.

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Fuel pressure is 30psi and rises to 50psi under full boost.

And how much psi boost do you need to run to make that power? The 511rwhp is BS as sst-steve said in the other thread right? So you have you still got it in your signature and as the title of this thread?

1.3K fuel system witout changing injectors? What was the 1.3K spend on then?

the advantage of running smaller injectors is that the spray pattern is better

On a sequential fire, I see your point but, what is the importance of spray pattern if your ECU is using batch fire...?

The fuel pools behind the intake valve till it opens.

Pooling may be the wrong word but, it still doesnt inject the fuel at the right time that corresponds with the opening of the intake valve. Why is majority of the industry adopting sequential fire if it didn't make a difference...?

So, again, what is the importance of spray pattern in batch fire...?

the advantage of running smaller injectors is that the spray pattern is better

That's simply not true, take a look at the 1,000 cc Bosch Motorsport injectors. The 370 cc RB25DET injectors are crap compared to them. Plus the spray patterns are selectable for close, mid and long inlet. I have absolutely no doubt you would get better everything using them, max power, average power, idle quality, emmisions and fuel economy would all benefit.

The reality is there is nothing that the standard injectors do better than many aftermarket injectors. As long as the ECU can control them of course.:D

As we have good economy and drivability and good emissions and reliability and no tuning problems even with 1000cc injectors and set the pace in WA Wheres the problem?

This is all getting weak and making you guys look like clowns. Wolf is not the worlds best ECU but it does a bloody good job and is well priced and garranted and very flexible and im happy to sell and support it.

ROFL...

We don't have a problem with Wolf, infact we'd like to know more about it.

The problem lies with you and your attitude that everyone is against you from the start. Example : Sydneykid didn't suggest Tristian should buy 1000cc injectors, he just corrected him and used 1000cc injectors as a reference.

Why start controversial threads, ignore the questions in it, than have a sook half way through it and ask it to be closed.

Why have the need to show yourself as ahead of every other tuner in the country...?

Who exactly is the clown...?

I am not from WA and neither are the big majority of the forum users.

So, I'm sorry your humour had gone straight passed me.

BUT, if that was the case, why didn't you put your thread in WA section...?

More importantly, why did you address it to all the people in eastern states...?

:)

The origional post is still a fact ,Tristan made 511rwhp on stock injectors on Speedworks dyno and if you were from WA you would know why thats funny.

I have avoided a direct face off up to now, but this one is TOOOOO much.

It was a HUB DYNO

The car did'nt have the rear wheels on it

They took them off to mount the dyno cells to the hubs

If it had no rear wheels on it, it can't make RWHP

R= Rear

W= Wheel

HP= Horsewpower

The post is WRONG, it should read RHHP

R= Rear

H= Hub

HP= Horsewpower

Other than that I have no problems:cheers:

PS, well I suspect that Tristan himself didn't make 511rhhp, it was actually Tristan's car.

my prices where rough sorry but my point still stands and i agree with SK and suggested it in my original thread, you have everything to benefit from bigger injectors so why is it so great to do big power on stockies that turn your engine into a timebomb??? Its like building a mansion then saying dont worry about using steel reinforcement ive seen people use timber on 2 bedroom houses that will do, back to the car If you have spent so much effort, time and money insuring reliabilty and performance everywhere else why skimp on the foundations, i dont dispute that you think the wolf is great, or the fact ot does the power i just cant fathom the mentality of doing it this way! Oh and my thought-out post was accepted everywhere common sense is, over 1000 locations Australia wide. (just keeping the mastercard thing going for you).

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