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hehe... I think you'll find krzysiu is being sarcastic..

You picked up that little hint lol

And ~Hypnotik~ i find it REALLY hard to believe that a 140kw S13 can keep up with a HSV, ur dreaming... unless he had the pedal half way, then yeah of course u could.

No offence but i just cant believe that

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Hey krzysiu, how do u think ur car would compare against a R33 GTR, since ur car has 250kw woud it be able to keep up, or maybe even come out in front.

:D

I have beaten a gt-r, but of course it led at the start (4WD) but i did pull in front. The thing is i know it was a stock gt-r cuz there is no way my car would beat a modded gt-r, ever lol. Cuz in the end of the day a GT-R is a GT-R

And the thing is we stopped at the speed limit (80Km/h) because i dont want a fine or a tree rammed up my arse...

You picked up that little hint lol

And ~Hypnotik~ i find it REALLY hard to believe that a 140kw S13 can keep up with a HSV, ur dreaming...   unless he had the pedal half way, then yeah of course u could.

No offence but i just cant believe that

:werd:

Hey, I never said I bet any HSV's. I said I bet an SS, which is not a HSV. I don't really know much about Holdens, but I'm guessing the GENIII in the SS would be in a light state of tune compared to the HSV's.

For the record, I didn't beat the SS by much, just a bit more than a car length, but a win is still a win. It seems most (not all!) of the Commo drivers can't launch thier car well, but I guess that's where the weight differernce between the two cars come into play.

I know at the moment I would get whooped by a Clubsport or other new HSV, but meh, I'm not afraid to lose...

You picked up that little hint lol

And ~Hypnotik~ i find it REALLY hard to believe that a 140kw S13 can keep up with a HSV, ur dreaming...   unless he had the pedal half way, then yeah of course u could.

No offence but i just cant believe that

Ive a very lightly modded auto R32 GTSt (pod/exhaust/advanced timing/10psi), and have raced older 195kw and 225kw Commodores (The 225kw was an older model GTS with a few mods, dont know what actual power it was producing).

The SS (195kw) I out launched and just kept pulling away from, the GTS was alot more even, we raced 6 times in a row and I won 4 times (as in a bonnet length or more over him) up to 120km/hr before we backed off.

I also have a friend with a VXII Clubsport manual (255kw std, dynoed with filter/exhaust etc as 250rwkw), and upto 100km we are even or I am slightly ahead due to better launches, but after that he stomps all over me...

So I definately dont underestimate them, but would be interested to see his car versus a 25t with filter and exhaust from a rolling start, alot more even I would think.

In comparison I have raced 5-6 R33 Series 1s and 2s and never been beaten upto 100km/hr, but being auto I do have a pretty simple launch method that works quite well... Although I am on R33 rims with cruddy 205s :wassup:

i havnet had any v8 problems. 0 to 100 in 4.88 with 172rwkw (non shootout mode)

97 gtst manual with powerfc, fmic, [email protected], 255s on the rear, full 3" exhaust from turbo back

I've raced 2 HSV's (the newer models).... both never got past the 60ft line before breaking something :D (yes it was legal drag racing at WSID).

so if anyone asks you can say i have beaten hsv's by close to 1000ft before i backed off... :headspin:

i havnet had any v8 problems. 0 to 100 in 4.88 with 172rwkw (non shootout mode)

97 gtst manual with powerfc, fmic, [email protected], 255s on the rear, full 3" exhaust from turbo back

That would be a gt-r right? As Sub 5seconds is late model evo territory.

Having a shitload of power can be pretty useless if your racing on a track. Like Keichi Tsuchia says, it's all about balance. After watching some best motoring video where a 911 Turbo, 360 modena, R34 GTR, Evo, NSX and Corvette C5R duke it out on a track I wondered how a Holden or Ford would go against those beasts.....I doubt it would beat the Ferrari which came in last place even with a good driver :Bang:

Exactly.

Some people forget that Japanese performance cars are not about absolute power. While Ford and Holden fans seem to care about little else.

Japanese performance cars (i.e. Skylines) have the following strengths (kick me if I leave anything out):

Styling

Weight balance

Handling

Engineering

Well-performing engines

Nissan chose to make an RB26DETT. They could so easily have redesigned the engine to be an RB44DETT (or similar) to make pure power by just upping the displacement, but they chose not to.

well over $35K still for a 1999 HSV judging from autotrader.com.au.

Can import a 1990 R32 GTR for 18K - 19K or 26K for a very modded one, drop in another 10K in also doing the suspension.

Will i still need to drag a HSV to prove a point?

We got some pretty wild GTRS here in perth and i haven't heard any of them have problems with any model HSV.

And ~Hypnotik~ i find it REALLY hard to believe that a 140kw S13 can keep up with a HSV, ur dreaming...   unless he had the pedal half way, then yeah of course u could.

No offence but i just cant believe that

Actually you'd be suprised.. the sr20det puts out about 150-160kw at the fly.. so I'm assuming hypnotik's talking rwkw, or doesnt actually know how much his s13 puts out.. (i'm assuming its an sr20det, if its a ca18det, then yes he probably is dreaming...)

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