Question about an R32 GTR

[Nugget_GTR]

HI all

OK i dont know if i have a problen here and i was wondering if someone could shed some light on this.

When i forst got the GTR up untill just recently it used to really hammer. and looking at the torque gauge on the dash it would rarly go to the front wheels, would when i launched and if i changed gears hard but once moving it would show 0 to the fronts and really hammered. Recently i have had new tires and a wheel alignment done. now it always seams to show around 10 on the gauge, if im just cruising around it wont but as soon as i put the foot down doesnt matter what gear what speed the torque gauge will go up and will stay there till i take my foot off, because of this it doesnt seam to be as quick when its up and moving still lightnight of the start but once moving i can feel the lack of power because its going to the fronts when it used to be all at the rears.

Would anyone know whay this is??? cause im not sure which way is normal.

also i was driving say a month back and one of the wheels came loose and my torgue gauge was up and down like a yoyo but once i got new nuts for it it and it wasnt moving around the car went back to normal, so im guessing the wheels can change this is some way, so did the alignment make it the way it is and how do i ge it back to the way it was??

cheers

[The Dan]

The 4WD is directly integrated with your ABS sensors. Are you having any problems with your ABS?

The torque split control should be active when you power down. The more slip it gets in the rear, the more torque is applied to the fronts.

You could take it on a dyno and have them diagnose it for you. You would also be able to get an indication of it's power. Sometimes, well I know I did, you get used to the power and it doesn't seem to go as quick. I'm not sure if your is the same but the dyno would explain it.

[always_me]

dont worry jackson, just rip the fuse out, hellies all day long, forget the front wheels just a waste of tyres when you have it in 4wd mode

[The Dan]

And in doing so you disable the ABS.

Forget the brakes, they are just a waste of stopping power.

[Morgs]

If you can't stop properly without ABS, you are a retard and should not be driving on the road.

[always_me]

morgs is right, abs is to dangerous to drive with, if you cant brake properly without abs then you shouldnt be driving a skyline

[benm]

What complete utter crap!!

How is ABS dangerous to drive with? ABS can activate/de-activate a 100 times quicker than your brain/leg/foot can so having ABS makes you certainly no worse off than not having ABS.

About 3wks ago I was dropping a friend off home in my estate at 2am on a very windy road (50km/h) when I came around a sharp blind corner to find some dickhead put 2 old tyres right in the middle of the road. I slammed on the brakes (activating ABS) and 'turned' around them (thankgod for the smooth curved gutters otherwise i'd have no frontbar) and drove along the side of the gutter.

I'd put money on it that without ABS you would have driven straight into the 2 tyres ripping your frontbar off whilst your front wheels were pointed towards the side gutter.

Now back on topic....

[Morgs]

Learn how to drive instead of relying on driving aids would be my motto. Dosen't take much to learn how to cadance brake. ABS makes up for what a good driver dosen't have: so overall yes it is good to have on a road car.

Nugget what size front and rear tyres do you have

[Mr R32 M-Spec]

I was noticing it similarly on mine. I don't think my gauge moves much but I drive mine nicely.

so if I gun it in a straight line the gauge should move?

[RichyR32GTR]

My torque guage starts to move as soon as i start boosting. If i take a corner hard and power into it, guage goes way up. Always has been like this since i got it. If it's constanly on 10, you have tire size issues. I got a flat and chucked the Nissan cheese cutter (space saver) on, i have 17", cheese cutter is 16", and my guage stayed on 10 all the time.

[relicr31act]

What is cadance braking? Is this a fancy word for threshold braking? For what it is worth at 22 years of age I think you have a lot to learn about driving so don't lecture others on their apparent shortcomings (in your somewhat inexperienced opinion!)

[always_me]

no point in getting upset people each has his own ideas on braking, as long as you can stop when you want to who cares what method you use, right?

[relicr31act]

How many "methods" are there?

[blind_elk]

Can't argue with Morgs on this one. I have trouble activating the ABS, because I've learned to threshhold brake.

...I slammed on the brakes (activating ABS)...

This is Morgs point - a properly trained driver would not have done this.

As for throwing away the fuse - if you don't want AWD, then don't get a GT-R!

Now, back on topic - Nugget, did you replace all 4 tyres? Did you replace them with the same type / size at each corner?

[relicr31act]

Or maybe you don't brake hard enough in the first place?

[benm]

This is Morgs point - a properly trained driver would not have done this.

Bad choice of words, it was a figure of speech. However driving in pitch black around a corner sweeping corner, black tarmac road, 2 black tyres sitting in the middle, doing 50 in a 50 zone and good luck without ABS is all I can say.

[Duncan]

ahh cmon even the best drivers will hit ABS.

on the track is different, same corner, surface, tyres and you did it all 2 min ago.

On the road you have different surfaces, hotter or colder tyres, hotter or colder day and road, oil/dust/debris on the surface. No way you can be *sure* of where the threshold is until you go over it...then ben's point come into play....by the time you feel or hear the lock up ABS would have pulsed 100 times.

Most likely if you aren't hitting abs or locking up you aren't braking hard enough...often people think they are getting the most out of their brakes, but when someone shows what they can really do, they are amazed.

Give me ABS on the road any day.

BTW I was watching an interesing video from 1991 the other day of the winfield GTR on slicks and a standard road car pulling up. The standard road car with ABS was 10m less

Sorry about the OT....my guess is your front and rear tyres are different sizes. You need to get it fixed ASAP either way because it will excessively wear your transfer case.

[relicr31act]

Hey Duncan well said. And Morgs do you think Nissan fitted ABS to GTR's just to look after "unskilled" drivers? No. The reason they fitted it is because that it is the best system!! By your estimations Grand Prix drivers are "bad" drivers because they lock brakes occasionally!! They lock brakes because they are pulling 6G under brakes with NO ABS not because they don't know how to cadance/ threshold brake!! If you are so skilled can you left foot brake your GTR and downshift clutchless? When you can maybe you could give us all some driving lessons! How is it that someone who has been driving for ten minutes assumes they are great and everybody else is shite?

[The Dan]

Point is this. If you don't like ABS, that's fine. Don't buy a car that has it.

But don't tell someone else to do something when you don't know enough about it yourself and, in turn, causing them to be without something they have grown used to over the period they have owned the car.

Go ahead and pull your own fuse out. Don't tell other people to when it could result in someone's loss of life. And if you do advise it, make sure you have the knowledge and experience to tell them what happens when you do.

[Morgs]

Hey Duncan well said.  And Morgs do you think Nissan fitted ABS to GTR's just to look after "unskilled" drivers?  No.  The reason they fitted it is because that it is the best system!!  By your estimations Grand Prix drivers are "bad" drivers because they lock brakes occasionally!!  They lock brakes because they are pulling 6G under brakes with NO ABS not because they don't know how to cadance/ threshold brake!!  If you are so skilled can you left foot brake your GTR and downshift clutchless?  When you can maybe you could give us all some driving lessons!  How is it that someone who has been driving for ten minutes assumes they are great and everybody else is shite?

Perhaps you should relax and re-read my and your own statements before coming to such ridiculous assumptions about my driving experience, and stop putting words in my mouth.

I've never had to activate ABS on the road because I am overly cautious.

Or maybe you don't brake hard enough in the first place?

Perhaps what you and I do on the road is a different story.

I did not claim to be the best driver in the world. Perhaps if your comprehension of what am I saying was as good as your 'lecturing' skills then we would get somewhere with this discussion. We are all entitled to our opinions and if you so choose to resort to personal attacks this I will be the bigger man and let you have the satisfaction of letting you have a go....

Sure ABS is the perfect system - theres no argument there. What if a driver steps from an ABS car to a non-ABS car, with the assumption in an emergency that the fastest way to stop the car is to trump the brake pedal onto the floor? See my point now?