Greddy E-Manage or Apexi PFC?

[|PRESA|]

Ok gang.. I realise they are two different applications yet both have a similar job in mind.

Just a little basic info on my mods, I have a 3" turbo back, Apexi Pod, Bleed valve @ 10psi and I'm tossing up between a Greddy R-SPL or Blitz LM front mount.

More likely a Greddy R-SPL.

So anyway I'm looking for a stable Engine Management unit that will be able to support around 250rwkw. My future plans are to get the turbo hi-flowed, bigger fuel pump to cope after the hi flow, adjustable cam gears to bring boost on a little earlier, adjustable fuel pressure regulator to pump those injectors so they don't max out.

Your probably thinking if his doing all this why not get the PFC... well it's gonna take a lot of saving to hopefully aim to get these mods done by the end of the year (Dam poor a$$ office job) and I think once I get the cooler this will probably make the fuel system abit rich and instead of going the SAFC-2 I'd get the Greddy E-Manage.

So can I have your opinions on this? Considering Greddy E-Manage is around $550 and the Apexi PFC is $1450.

Thanks for everyones help!

[R31Nismoid]

PFC $1100-$1200 from nengun.

[BiZzReVhEad]

Yer well im in the same boat as u .. Im thinking of getting a E-manage , but also cant afford the PFC for budget reasons . There is also a HKS unit F-CON V pro which is supposed to be good to . I think ill be getting the greddy one thou

I found this , might help http://www.takakaira.com/performance/main.html

[R31Nismoid]

TRy find someone who can use a HKS F-Con

Get the PFC. A e-manage is a band aid

[paulr33]

powerfc is $1100 delivered from nengun. powerfc will do 250rwkw easily. speak to your local tuner and see what they would prefer or what they consider better/easier as they're the ones tuning it. i know nothing about the emanage but have powerfc on my r33. also speak to your tuner for a fmic kit install, will be cheaper than an unfitted jap kit and should flow the same.

[BiZzReVhEad]

BD4's In gladesville is the only ppl in sydney who does them i beleive.. well wat thomas told me anyway

[|PRESA|]

I actually don't have a tuner =

I do all my own service and everything I've installed so far has been simle bolt ons.

I'm thinking about heading over to Ice Performance, I had a couple chats with the boys over there and they seem quite good. Although I've heard you have to book a few week in advance, which is a downer.

[rd-runr]

Have a read of the sticky on what is a greddy emanage at the top of these forums. Gives ideas of the capabilities of it. The emanage can be bought as a direct plug in kit so that you don't need to rewire it. Its probably best to find out what the tuners around there are more familiar with PFC or Emanage, Although I don't expect them to be drastically different!

[Sydneykid]

Power FC is a full replacement computer, there is no comparison between that and an EManage which is a piggy back. If you buy the stuff to get an EManage even close to a Power FC, it will cost more anyway. If you want to tune air/fuel ratrios only, then the SAFC is a cheaper solution, that looses nothing to an EManage. If you are really tight on budget try the Jaycar Digital Fuel Adjuster kit, just as good as the SAFC for 1/5th the price. But you do need to able to read instructions and solder components on circuit boards.

[|PRESA|]

From the sounds of it I think the PFC is gonna be better bang for my buck..

Hmm.. it makes me think whether I should get a PFC or the Greddy R-SPL cooler first??

[Bass Junky]

You'll get more power from the PFC.

But to get more power eventually ou will need the FMIC.

But, you have to get one first.

Go the PFC.

[R31Nismoid]

cooler first.

then do your PFC. Will save you money on a retune if you get a PFC and then modify the car which will alter things

[Chase-u]

what if you can't use the power fc cause my car is auto? The e-manage has one made for my car to run with the auto, so would that be my best option?

[Sydneykid]

what if you can't use the power fc cause my car is auto? The e-manage has one made for my car to run with the auto, so would that be my best option?

The SAFC will do everything that the EManage does in regards to tuning the A/F ratios (as will the DFA). The only reason for choosing the EManage would be to try the ignition tuning option, but I have yet to see a dyno comparison that indicates success from that implementation. And at the same time retain the standard ECU programming for ignition retard on gearchanges in an auto.

So if anyone has done it successfully, please post up the results.