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Originally posted by skyzerr33

oh a good memory the multimedia students

god there were some honies in that lot.

one of em was caught bonking the lecturer to get a pass mark

naughty naughty

Hmmm I never heard of that one!!!!!

But ohhh yeah there were some very very nice looking ladies doing that course.... many of us on several occasions came very close to swapping courses!!!! :P

Originally posted by skyzerr33

so u work near langtrees paul?

u should do lunch at the broken hill hotel on thursday from 12-2 hehe

aghh the broken hill - used to get molested if i even tried to walk past there to get to the bank when i worked at skippers haha. dodgy lot.

Trust you to know when the topless barmaids n strippers are on troy :P

Yeah I know that lecturer very very well.... What we couldnt work out though is she was quite often in that little building across the road in the public carpark next to the Tafe... we never could work out what the deal was with her!!!

Yeah that sounds about right..... Those were the days.... I swear we must of played cards about 2 hours each day back then.... It was cool. Luckily I am one of those people that the information just soked in without a great deal of attention/effort :P

Hmm not a bad effort..... I would like to go and get another certification but the costs and my apparent lack of motivation are stopping me so far.... Perhaps a Cisco ( which can now be done at TAFE ) or a Novell certification... both of which we use at work... I don't know what sort of coverage Novell has in the marketplace these days but its what I use daily at work so I figure that would be the most usefull to me...

My career has gone off on a tangent though .... I did the computer systems diploma so 99% of my training is in computers which is where I started in my job.... then after some redundancies I also inherited the RF paging networks of WA, now after further redundancies and restructures I need to support the Telecommunications 3G network we are building!!!! Most of which I have had no training in and no nothing about!!!!

Interesting times ahead :P

say hi back to two40 -little mobile phone fiend kept me amused at work yesterday - that first message he sent me i thought it was my ex with a new number - its like the stuff he sends me. crappy poems and weird weird things with double meanings. haha

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