Mr. Oizo Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 ahh ok. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> or maybe but, i'd sya more the "OMG I HAVE DEFI GAUGES LOOK AT ME!!11!~" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1787861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Bliss Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 C'mon guys... let up. Defi... ET Motorsport in Dandenong (Not that I've ever been to Dandenong hehe haha) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1788158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WRONG Quality Japanese Gauges have the ability to warn you at a preset point so you know without looking at the gauge if something isn't right. They also have peak hold functions which store the highest value the gauge got to in a given period of time. Particularly useful for circuit use so you can check how the car was performing throughout your laps. Also the big advantage of the Defi Link System is that you can record the behaviour of your gauges for the laps that you do so you can check to make sure that boost is building properly, none of the values are overshooting abnomally etc... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1789442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Oizo Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 WRONGQuality Japanese Gauges have the ability to warn you at a preset point so you know without looking at the gauge if something isn't right. They also have peak hold functions which store the highest value the gauge got to in a given period of time. Particularly useful for circuit use so you can check how the car was performing throughout your laps. Also the big advantage of the Defi Link System is that you can record the behaviour of your gauges for the laps that you do so you can check to make sure that boost is building properly, none of the values are overshooting abnomally etc... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Defi aren't the only brand of Quality Japanese Gauges Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1789481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 hence why my paragraph opens with "Quality Japanese Gauges" and not "Defi gauges" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1789756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapn Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 what a waste of money <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually they are a much more accurate and responsive then Autometre and other brands. Also Preset Warn Functions and Peak hold Functions. In my case i need an electric oil pressure gauge that gos to 140 PSI and unfprtunately in the Autometre range there is not one made. In fact the only brand i can find is Defi that make an Electric gauge that goes to 140PSI So no, its not a waste of money, And dark, you may be after a wank factor, but Defi definately wont give you that,, i Suggest you try something else. Maybe something you know a little more about?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1789769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Oizo Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Actually they are a much more accurate and responsive then Autometre and other brands. Also Preset Warn Functions and Peak hold Functions.In my case i need an electric oil pressure gauge that gos to 140 PSI and unfprtunately in the Autometre range there is not one made. In fact the only brand i can find is Defi that make an Electric gauge that goes to 140PSI So no, its not a waste of money, And dark, you may be after a wank factor, but Defi definately wont give you that,, i Suggest you try something else. Maybe something you know a little more about?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So, you have to go buy a $300 gauge that has a black face when its off, and then lights up when its on to have an accurate gauge? Why not buy HKS chrono gauges, or pivot gekko gauges or blitz id gauges, or apexi el2 gauges..? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1789784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 because there's not that much of a price difference between them mate. Get your facts straight before you go giving people shit about the stuff they want to buy for their cars. Pest (Using Boost as an example) Trust - 23,100 Yen (Control Unit - 13,650Yen) TOTAL: 36,750Yen HKS - 26,040Yen (Control Unit - 13,650Yen) TOTAL: 39,690Yen Defi - 25,200 Yen (Control Unit - 11,340Yen) TOTAL: 36,540Yen Defi comes out the cheapest. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mokompri Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 nice show of ignorance, try to get some idea about what your talking about before trying to belittle others and calling them names defi are CHEAPER then most other JAP brand ELECTRONIC gauges, do a search and you will see HKS, Greddy, and Apexi are ALL more expensive then what you can get DEFI's for. mech ones are illegal bar boost gauge so there prices dont count. autometer are innacurate as shit, so you wouldnt bother with them at all they have peak hold, playback (aka datalogging) and peak warning with audible alert. they are a sub branch of the SEIKO company. rice ? no, just your lack of knowledge Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Oizo Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Control Unit APEXi - EL2 System Control Unit AU $ 84.91 Defi - Link - Controller unit II AU $ 97.02 HKS - I/F Unit AU $ 131.43 Blitz - Live Unit II Racing MeterAU $ 143.52 Boost Gauge APEXi - EL 2 Electrical Boost Gauge AU $ 188.34 Defi - Turbo Meter 60mm AU $ 221.76 HKS - HKS DB Electronic Boost Meter AU $ 251.43 Blitz - Racing Meter DC II Boost AU $ 203.28 No, Defi does not come out the cheapest. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateR31 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 well, a dyno said my car was rnning 10psi, my autometer guage says im running 10psi, soooo, i think it works jsut fine, and was under $100 face it,you jsut want it for wank factor, the autometer comp guages, work just as good, do the sae thing, and are liquid filled aswell, at half the price, and dont look so gay. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageZilla Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 if autometer r so inaccurate then y do 99% of drag racers use them???? they run on the limit of engine stress and the info on the gauges is vital so i dont think autometer would be inaccurate maybe just not as fancy lookin and without recall stuff. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scathing Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The way I see it, Defi gauges are like GT wings. If you actually have a use for the extra functionality, then yes there are benefits to them. But, for 99% of people using them on the street, they're purely for wank value. Having warnings, peak holds and replays are great for tuning / track work where you might want to see what was happening with your engine but you had to keep your eyes somewhere else. Unless your ECU has full logging / telemetry (full house drag cars would, hence them not needing gauges that can recall...just gauges that can display) then this would come in handy. I'm not referring specifically to the BF gauges with the wanky "startup dance" - but just Defi gauges with a control box in general. Other Jap gauges can offer the same setup, so in the end it just comes down to personal preference or what matches your interior... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean01 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 the ease of hooking up defi's in the car is a reason alone u buy them the daisy chain allows u to hook up up to 6 gauges in a neat way. defi's being a wank factor??? what about all the boys with there chrome bezelled autometer's on the bonnet??? now thats wank factor.... electronic or mechanical... i know what i'll go for. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean01 Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 give him abreak... he just asked if anyone had defi gauges and where to buy... ffs. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1790861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapn Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 give him abreak... he just asked if anyone had defi gauges and where to buy... ffs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks Sean, i guess not all the people on here are running 500hp @ Wheels and wouldnt understand the benefits of a defi gauge over autometer, the benefits they have in helping not lose a $30k motor on the drag strip or circuit or even on the street. Also when doing road tunes. Not to mention the reason i first wanted defi (only brand that make a 140psi electric oil pres. gauge). To the average person who has a standard ride with a front mount they may seem like a wank factor. As Dark pointed out Defi are the 2nd cheapest Jap brand on the market and in my opinion the best. Like i mentioned i was asking if anyone knew where i could get defi gauges from. So thanks to the people who helped, and well to the people who knew nothing and thought they were "wank factor" you need to do a little more research before you start knocking gauges you know nothing about. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1791423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
weapn Posted December 14, 2005 Author Share Posted December 14, 2005 well, a dyno said my car was rnning 10psi, my autometer guage says im running 10psi, soooo, i think it works jsut fine, and was under $100face it,you jsut want it for wank factor, the autometer comp guages, work just as good, do the sae thing, and are liquid filled aswell, at half the price, and dont look so gay. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actually mate no i dont. As i have quoted a few times i need a oil pres gauge that goes to 140psi, which is the first reasion i started looking at Defi. Once i saw the features thats the gauges i wanted. Your car runs 10psi on the dyno, mine runs 22psi on pump fuel and 500hp at the wheels. If something like this gauge will contribute to helping tune and not lose a motor to me its worth it. So your opinion is wank factor, maybe your ride has no performance which is why you think its wank factor. When you get into performance cars you will understand the need and peace of mind of things like gauges with these features. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1791429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StageZilla Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Actually mate no i dont.As i have quoted a few times i need a oil pres gauge that goes to 140psi, which is the first reasion i started looking at Defi. Once i saw the features thats the gauges i wanted. Your car runs 10psi on the dyno, mine runs 22psi on pump fuel and 500hp at the wheels. If something like this gauge will contribute to helping tune and not lose a motor to me its worth it. So your opinion is wank factor, maybe your ride has no performance which is why you think its wank factor. When you get into performance cars you will understand the need and peace of mind of things like gauges with these features. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> these drag cars run over 2000-3000hp and u think they are just trying to save a few bucks buying autometer, bah yer right not saying defi r shit or a ripoff im just saying autometer aint shit a 3000hp engine running over 10 000rpm with 7L capacity is what they get used on so they aint that bad. autometer r the most reputable brand in the world for gauges and in the racing scene. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1791576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted December 14, 2005 Share Posted December 14, 2005 i like defi gauges. and i admit it may be because i'm a wanker. but i don't really give a shit, because i like them, simple as that. having said that i have a boost gauge in the GTR. I've looked at it about twice (when setting the boost levels). never looked at it since. though i do have a peak hold function on the profec b II and i do look at that so i guess it's not really a fair comparison. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1791597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 15, 2005 Share Posted December 15, 2005 Control UnitAPEXi - EL2 System Control Unit AU $ 84.91 Defi - Link - Controller unit II AU $ 97.02 HKS - I/F Unit AU $ 131.43 Blitz - Live Unit II Racing MeterAU $ 143.52 Boost Gauge APEXi - EL 2 Electrical Boost Gauge AU $ 188.34 Defi - Turbo Meter 60mm AU $ 221.76 HKS - HKS DB Electronic Boost Meter AU $ 251.43 Blitz - Racing Meter DC II Boost AU $ 203.28 No, Defi does not come out the cheapest. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> AUD Prices on this stuff is not really relevant in this argument as first of all you haven't told us who your source is. Look at my prices and look at the relevant comapnies websites and you will see they are exactly the same as what the manufacture reccomends. Your prices however could have come from anywhere and don't factor into account dodgy sellers who avoid customs duty and defraud the tax department by marking down product values and so forth. If you want to use AUd as you argument I suggest you contact the authorised distributor of each product for a FULL retail price onthe items before comparing prices. You will find there is not much of a difference between the major japanese electronic gauges. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/97847-defi-gauges/page/2/#findComment-1792348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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