Iron Chef

Thanks for posting mate You're spot on - best for that scary situation/near miss to happen in a safe environment. Going back 10 years ago, I used to sell Holdens, and we had a Barina GSi (for those that remember them) which was one of the very few small cars on the market with ABS brakes at the time. I used to take customers out for demos on a quite side street and show them how the ABS worked - just the shock of a hard stop from 60km/h (even with me giving them plenty of warning) was something my customers never forgot, and I was reminded about it many times over in years to come. It was very effective at getting them to buy the car though How cool is that set-up?? I doubt Media Mike would go for something so expensive haha, but it's good ammo in the push for that sort of training. I might have to delve into that course a little more Lee, it sounds pretty much like what I've got in mind. I obviously wanna be careful not to go ruining the businesses that run advanced driver training courses commercially, but you're right, the training will be more on defensive driving and preventing being in an accident situation as much as avoiding hitting something when an emergency scenario occurs. I did the Jim Murcott defensive driving course, and I'd have to say it was the single most effective modifier of my driving behaviour - that and having kids, which changes your whole perspective on things too. My parents paid for the course as a birthday present for me - I often get people asking me what gift they should give a car nut, and that's what I tell them every time. Anyway, cheers for the support guys.

From the first post: It’s worth noting that there will always be a percentage of the population that does everything right on the road – for them this course will only serve to reinforce what they already know. At the other end, there will be a percentage on which this course would also have no effect – their poor attitude and driving habits will remain regardless. It’s the people in the middle I’m keen to target – the ones who, as a result of their training, end up making the right choices instead of the wrong ones: choices that may just save their lives, and the lives of those around them.

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Gr...ml#entry4528615 I've decided to do something constructive

Apologies in advance for the essay! Hi guys, The accident on Magill Road recently, whilst tragic in itself, seems to have spawned plenty of anti-hoon hysteria in the past few weeks, fuelled by right-wing talk-back DJs and journalists whipping up controversy to sell more papers or improve their ratings. What's worse, there have also been plenty of SA politicians, the ones who we elect, who've jumped on this bandwagon in order to supposedly help their chances at the next election, the worst being Minister for Road Safety, Tom Koutsanis. Airline pilots go through thousands upon thousands of hours of training, both physically in a plane, and in a simluator, being taught to handle their planes in emergency situations, before they are allowed to fly, and yet we, as a society, seem quite content to put our young drivers in potentially life-threatening situations in cars every day with little or no emergency training whatsoever. Politicians will puff out their chests at this suggestion and point to the record low road toll as proof that the "big stick" approach to road safety is working, conveniently ignoring the fact it's the cars themselves have actually become safer rather than the drivers inside. And so we, the motoring public, in our apathy, believe the hype and blindly accept that increasingly harsh penalties for minor infringements are in our best interests of public safety rather than in the interests of reaping the government tens of millions of dollars in revenue each year. So, to the issue of young drivers and how best to educate them. Current methods employed by the Motor Accident Commission and SAPOL include sending police officers into schools with images of blood and gore to supposedly deter young drivers from doing anything stupid on the streets. I can completely understand police officers wanting to do this - they are the ones, after all, who have to pick up the pieces when someone kills themselves on our roads. The problem is that, in general, such teaching methods are the ones that ADULTS think will work best with young drivers, not the ones that will have little effect on the drivers to need to hear the message most. Why? Because young drivers generally assume they are brilliant at driving until it's proven otherwise. They look at videos of crashes and say to themselves "If that had been me, I would've...and the accident never would've happened". The presenters leave feeling they've got the message through, and then when a young driver is placed in the same situation as the video, in real life, they end up reacting in exactly the same way as the person on the tape. The reason for this is they have no understanding of their how they will behave, nor how their car will behave, in an emergency situation. Panic and shock set in, and basic mistakes are made. The push for more hours in cars being supervised by trained instructors is a good start, but knowing how to reverse park and do a handbrake start, whilst important, won't help you know what to do when you've come over the crest of a hill at the 100km/h speed limit and there's a truck doing 20km/h on the other side, with no room for you to pull up safely behind it. The only solution is to train young drivers in how to handle their cars and manage their own behaviour in emergency situations in a safe environment. On other words, advanced driver training. Governments will point to a raft of studies (commissioned by governments, naturally) that suggest that advanced driver training has little effect in reducing the likelihood of accidents for young drivers, and in some cases can actually make matters worse. Aside from it being impossible to prove (or disprove) this theory, such studies are almost always based on flawed data. Because there’s no standardised system for advanced driver training, the content of courses varies widely. Some, for example, are aimed at developing skills for competitive track racing and will attract wannabe racing car drivers who usually think they’re much better drivers than they really are – the kind most likely to also be over-confident on the street, and therefore more likely to have an accident. Because of the expense involved in setting up such courses, the governments will use this flawed data to reach a conclusion that advanced driver training courses are not a cost-effective option for reducing the road toll. In economic terms, it’s far easier just to stick to the current tried and true formula, which makes money rather than costing money. In 1991 (back before “safety cameras” were discovered), the Australian Transport Safety Bureau commissioned a survey aimed at examining the effect that advanced driver training courses had on participants, who were on their provisional licences. It found that there was a significant improvement in both the skills and attitudes of drivers who participated, and suggested that the shock of having to operate a car in a simulated emergency situation during the course was sufficient to embed the experience in the participants’ memories, and was therefore likely to improve their response next time such an experience occurred in real life. I’ll post some excerpts from its conclusions later on. The Plan - Provide advanced driver training that places the focus on improving driver attitude as much as improving skills - Give young drivers the opportunity to do this via hands-on experiences in a safe environment away from public roads - Involve community service groups and not-for-profit organisations (such as car clubs) to provide volunteer trainers, and private enterprise to sponsor the course, to help keep the cost to participants at a minimum - As an ultimate goal, lobby the current state government and its ministers to fund the course and make attendance compulsory, at a subsidised cost, for all learner drivers. - Also petition the government to listen to the opinions of police from both WA and NSW who’ve noted a significant drop in illegal racing as a result of drag strips being built, and to reconsider its current stance on providing government funding for an all-new drag racing facility in South Australia. It’s worth noting that there will always be a percentage of the population that does everything right on the road – for them this course will only serve to reinforce what they already know. At the other end, there will be a percentage on which this course would also have no effect – their poor attitude and driving habits will remain regardless. It’s the people in the middle I’m keen to target – the ones who, as a result of their training, end up making the right choices instead of the wrong ones: choices that may just save their lives, and the lives of those around them. I've already had a positive response "in principle" from SAPOL, various businesses (both in and out of the motor industry) and the Sporting Car Club of SA, to my plan. There is still plenty of work to be done, and plenty of meetings to attend, so it will need plenty of support and plenty of determination on my part if I am to succeed. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers Kristian

I saw you too, but you weren't looking lol I waved after I went past, I initially thought someone was abusing me then I saw the SAU sticker haha

Spotted a white 34-fronted R32 in Wingfield. I'd just been to Nisswreck to pick up some bits and pieces.

lol yeah I got the pov pack. No remote central locking either...

I just threw up in my mouth a little...

Mine hasn't got one either

Put some pics up and we can give you a better idea of what you've got.

Coincidentally, the thread creator's name is also Damo, sorry bud

Damo's been hiding under a rock lol

Please tell me they're not LED driving lights on the inside edge of the headlights...

So people complain when 'hoons' ruin it for all motoring enthusiasts with the press , yet suddenly ALL police are corrupt? How do you think all the honest cops feel about the coverage of this incident?? A few bad apples are spoiled, doesn't mean the whole bunch is.

Try www.nisswreck.com.au I think they have a 34 they're wrecking.

lol I remember picking my RX-2 up from the workshop with an extra 100bhp over when it went in, the problem was that it drank accordingly. I picked my new GF up for our first date, and the thing ran out as I was turning right on North East Road! Thankfully I was heading downhill, and there was a servo on the corner, so there I was pushing the thing across the intersection, with the GF refusing to get out the car and help lol. I should point out that GF is now the mother of my 3 kids

I think that's what he was saying

hahahahahahaha Speaking of shoes, have you put any pics of your GT-R up with its new shoes yet, Terry?

That one's already sold

The Evo would smash it, even before you hit the first corner. Sorry, but it's true.

I must admit your car gives me wood, Eugene...

^^^ Something is in the pipeline already in SA. Will post more details soon

I pick option number 2

The purples were all limited editions, but oddly enough they seem to sell for less than other colours at auction. Probably because it's a right b*tch to fix if you scratch one...

Pharmacy and Psychology, what a great combo lol