Iron Chef

Failing to find any sympathy for the OP... Seriously, harden up and cop it on the chin as a lesson learnt. CJ didn't go out of their way to defraud you, the parts they sold you were the correct parts, which were then installed incorrectly by someone else. If you were hoping to get your revenge on here, you've failed. If there's gonna be any lawsuits, it'll be them dragging your sorry arse through court for damages from your slander/libel.

Haha, I better watch my mouth! You're correct on the assumptions being made, and they're just as dangerous. Condition is always more important than kms, but people (myself included) struggle to get their head around it. I haven't bought a high-km for myself in years, regardless of condition. Everyone thinks a car is worth half its value as soon as it hits 100,000km, which is ridiculous.

Another generalisation! I've seen 5 year old cars from Japan that have 200,000km plus on them (admittedly most have gone overseas or to the scrap yard before they hit that point), and I've seen mint cars in Oz that have done 4000km a year. I've also bought a 1988 Cefiro with a genuine 23,000km on it, with service history and backed up by the export certificate. The thing looked like a time capsule, brand new inside.

A Legacy for a Probox? Oh dear...lol

lol I don't even need to run that one through FAST. It's legit. Is this the one that is currently (or recently) for sale? Get in touch with me via PM, as we're starting to compile a register of N1s worldwide. More details soon

:P Great minds think alike!

lol and Stageas all have it under their rear view mirrors too. Mitsubishis from snow country pretty much have it anywhere. I hate to admit it, but Toyotas are generally very good for lack of rust. Nice "real name" btw, Kaga-sensei...

I basically have to snag good cars at stupidly cheap prices. A lot of guys just bid online based on what they see on the sheet, so when my guys are there and they see a car that is borderline but is marked as a grade 4 on the sheet, we often don't bother bidding, because we know some pelican will think it's a glamour and pay way over the odds for it. The reverse is also true - a car marked as having rust on the auction sheet might have one or two tiny spots (fine for compliance), but no-one online will bid because they don't know how severe it is. The R31s are well and truly into the classic car stage in Japan, so the only ones that are still kicking around over there have usually been well looked after. No one would drift one over there these days. Even decent R32s and S13s are getting very thin on the ground over there - so many have met their maker early on the many hills roads around Japan, meaning the few that are left are usually well thrashed.

lol this thread is seriously sucking the smart out of me... Rubbish. Sweeping statements like that are just as stupid as saying that none of them are wound back. See above. Low km cars do exist, they're the ones that fetch top dollar. More wives' tales. There isn't a dealer on the planet that would waste that much time and money to try and fool someone into thinking the car had done less kms. They want cars out the door asap, with as little time and expense as possible. They rely on the customer being stupid. It's not possible to fake the export certificate, all of which now list the kms every time the car is re-registered. The kms are recorded by a third party, not by the owner. Again, you're assuming that every person in Japan is involved in some kind of giant conspiracy to defraud the next owner. Believe it or not, some people just drive their cars and get whatever they get come trade-in time. Sigh. Another wives' tale. When you purchase a new car in Japan, you get 3 years' worth of registration built into the sale. Once that three years is up, you must have a shaken inspection (roadworthy) which then allows you to register your car for a further two years. The registration costs increase every time the car is re-registered, so guys driving around in classic cars in Japan are almost certainly fairly well off. The other factor worth mentioning is that interest rates in Japan are extremely low compared to Australia - last time I checked (a while ago, I'll admit) dealers were offering finance on new cars at 1.5% interest! I can't get an interest rate like that from my own parents lol. So imagine, you have a 5 year old car about to run out of rego. Your options are to re-register it (costs can run to over a month's wages for the average full time worker, about $4K when converted to AUD) or update to a new car, pay nothing in the changeover (apart from end up further in debt) and get three years' rego thrown in. Most people take option number two, although in recent months, credit in Japan is drying up, just like everywhere else. That's why sales are plummeting, dealers are overstocked with cars, and manufacturers are shutting their plants for extended periods. There are good and bad in Japan, just as in Australia. I mentioned before that all cars being exported from Japan come with an export certificate - this is the Japanese government bowing to pressure from governments overseas and putting strategies in place to limit the practice of odometer rewinding. When cars are complied under SEVS in Australia, the export certificate is retained by the compliance workshop, and must be produced for every car complied when asked by DoTaRS inspectors. It hasn't wiped out the practice all together, but it has slowed it dramatically. On the other side of the fence, I've seen it time and time again where the customer will take the attitude of "if it's cheap enough, I won't ask any questions". I've often have to explain to people that cars coming up at auction have a question mark next to their kms (meaning the kms on the odometer don't match the condition) and the first response is almost always "cool, do you think we can get it cheap?" The customer isn't always an innocent victim either. I can pick them a mile away, because they're usually the ones that come to me saying their mate imported his own S15 Spec R manual for $15K landed and complied and want to know if I can beat that price... As a broker, I don't have the option of tidying up cars for sale and making them look a million bucks on the lot, so my quality control has to be a lot tighter. The cars I buy go to the customer in pretty much the same condition as they are at auction in Japan (plus about two months' worth of grime and dust on the paint). I only use a couple of agents in Japan, because they don't bullsh*t me around - they know what I'm after, and they can spot a wound back odometer from a mile away, in many cases just from reading the auction sheet. Here endeth the sermon

I hope it was functional...

Close enough In fairness to myself, rumour has it that a few extras were retro-built (at enormous expense to the owners who requested them) after the initial batch too, so I may be more correct that you think

It's just as easy to do. Check the general condition of the seats, pedals, gearknob etc. A 50,000km should still look fairly good. Low-km examples do exist. My car has a legit 23,800km on it, with books.

Having your wife in the passenger seat screaming the same thing makes it much, much worse lol

And hand stitched too. The quality control on the making of them was awesome. Given a choice of any R34, I'd take an M-Spec Nur version of my car (i.e. Nismo R1 motor, S-tune suspension). Best of both worlds. Smitizen, that's my car in my sig

The Z-tune that landed here copped a poxy looking stereo install, from memory....

They are the ultimate, but they're not the rarest It's splitting hairs a little, but technically the Z-tunes are Nismo built cars, and aren't considered GT-Rs. A bit like calling a HSV a Holden...

The Nurs were approximately split 750 for V-Spec II, 250 for M Spec, so they're pretty rare and unlikely to come down in price that much if they're low kms and good condition. Even the normal M-Specs are pretty thin on the ground, I think I estimated with someone else on here 350 or so built. It's in another thread in this section. V Spec N1 had 45 built, with 33 of those being "road use" spec, the rest going straight to competitors for track use. Z-Tune had 25 built, although a few more have apparently been retro-built (without the official Z-tune designation) at the Omori factory since the original run. The rarest of all is the V-Spec II N1, of which 18 were built, and three of these actually reside in Australia. I'm working totally off the top of my head here, so apologies if I've got my figures wrong.

Part 1 - sorry link only, too lazy to repost http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.p...howtopic=367595

Sexy time. Not cheap, though!

lol, we only made it late in the afternoon on Sunday, and I think eleventybillion locals had the same idea...took an hour and a half to find a car park...

Correct - it's not an N1. FAST is all you need to verify that one.

I'll post my pics up soon - the cars in the line-up for the car park were nearly as good as what was inside! It was reassuring to note that many of the cars on display were driven home after the event too.

Looks like a Z tune kit at least. They never came in white from Nismo. White is the new black in Japan though, see my sig for further proof

You get what you pay for...

lol thanks for letting us know