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You have me mistaken Gary as usual. Im not disagreeing that Ball bearing turbo's are great, reliable and are not as fussy as journal bearing. This isnt a plug for journal bearing turbo's i sell both and am happy to sell turbo's at twice the cost of journal for ball bearing. I have seen the differences and the failures and you are obviously drawn to the conclusion that millions of dollars spent on technology means a flawless answer to the future of turbo's and everybody must follow. This may or may not be the case however i wonder why everybody doesnt go ball bearing ?? Perhaps they dont seem to see the point you are trying to make Gary. BUT!!!! Ball bearing turbo's fail under warranty, out of warranty, out of the box. Journal bearings fail also there is no denying it. Im just defending that it is not as common as you are making it out to be........ In the list of turbo's there i will point out the Toyota breed in particular being journal bearing, MR2's Celica's Surf's Soarers even Supras have all used journal bearing turbo's with great success and minimal failure. Not to mention most nissan turbo's have also been released in journal, this also applies for Mazda Citreon etc etc etc Please research a toyota forum for the hundreds of turbo failures that MUST be happening because of the use of journal bearings. And lets not forget Trust and Turbonetics and IHI and i can repeat myself again if you like with the rest of the manufacturers. All are use journal bearing in every motor vehicle application. Where are the failures???????????? Im not saying there arent any but i would not have a full day unless i were repairing/modifying BOTH journal bearing and ball bearing turbo's. You seem to like turning these sorts of threads into a R32 vs R33 type debate which one is better. They are both multipurpose with pro's and con's. Its as simple as that. I have actually done line haul runs from Sydney to Melbourne and back up to Brisbane to pass the time on holidays a while ago and you would be obviously blown away by the amount of drivers that just DO turn the key off straight away. As i have said it doesnt matter what application, Journal bearings are used in all of them still. When i were using one of my highflows before upgrading engine i did hot shut downs on many occasions and with my recommended oil line modifications i saw no coking of oil the lines were clean and shaft and bearings remained unburnt. Ill put it down to laziness on my part but there is real life experience for you. I will be still using Journal bearing and have modified a Biagio GT40 to GT40/92 Garrett specs. I would also like to point out the fact that 70%++ of truck drivers and car drivers would have no idea about turbo timers or cool down periods and do just shut the car/truck/tractor or what ever it may be off as soon as they come to a stop. I dont mean to sound like the lone warrior defending Journal bearings, but that is what i am doing. They are fantastic turbo's at half the cost of ball bearing with minimal operating differences. They can last as long as ball bearing if serviced correctly and will in some cases even outlast them. I personally only build, design and re-engineer existing turbo's both journal and ball bearing at a rate of about 15 per day so what would i know?

Another + for Kyle at 6boost He makes awesome quality manifolds.

Which would be bad.....

You would be refering to a 270 degree thrust or less and a 360 degree thrust. I have never heard of any place that highflows turbo's that didnt replace every single part except for the housings and cartridge core with new. The Garrett overhaul kits include everything and anybody that highflows turbo's should or does use these kits. The only thing remaining to get to complete the highflow is the Shaft/Turbine and compresor wheel. The rest is in machining and balancing.

t517z's t518z's are journal bearing and they also sell them in ball. Nearly the entire TDO range has been released journal bearing. Turbonetics - Journal bearing Turbonetics also use single journal and single ball in unison to cope with the weight of heavy shafts/turbines for cars making 800hp + using big singles. Garrett also still sell nearly thier entire range in journal bearing also. There is no difference in bearing design between trust and Garrett, We recondition Truck turbo's The entire Nissan UD truck series run journal bearing Garrett turbo's with no difference in journal bearing design to any other. Not to mention nearly every other Line Haul/Detroit tuck using only journal bearing turbo's CATERPILLAR tractors, farm machinery mainly use Schwitzer turbo's which are all journal bearing. Holset, kkk, CUMMINGS, KOMATSU, Ragay, biagio Toyota released the ct9 ct20 ct26, hitathi ht80, kawasaki, IHI, caterpillar themselves, MTU turbosystems all use journal bearing. Its not a fact that hot shut offs kill journal bearing as you can see there would be hundreds of thousands to even millions of cars/trucks/boats/machinery not to mention Quary machinery which all use journal bearing turbo's on trucks as large as a house would be in repair after every shift. There are always other cotributing factors to turbo failure and for as many journal bearing failures there ARE as many ball bearing failures if the ratio of journal to ball bearing turbo's as taken into account. As there are far more journal bearing turbo's released and sold still today than ball bearing. We have never had a failure because of hot shut down. We still also have not had a turbo returned to us yet due to anything journal bearing related. hearsay?

LOL!!!!!

Dont be weak.............

WTF?!?!? Have you aged Josh?

18th of Aug

mmmmm Baron Goodness

You get turns over a period of time.

*Pimp slaps Al for stealing my name *Organises drivebye

Ill start again my hoes have all f**ked off and my thugs stooged me

Im doing drivebyes on everyone reminds me alot of dark-future.org

bah works now Damnit some kient took my name

The site is broken

If you modify the compressor wheel in any way its a sure fire way to cost yourself a turbo. Balancing is the most important part of making the turbo and the slightest imbalance will cause it to die. If the replacement turbo has damaged or worn blades it wont last very long anyway.

Still on Dont be weak people

I have just found out about this. I can still buy N1 blocks out of Japan and they are still being made. You can still get the Nur block aswell which you can tell because of the x in the right corner after the engine number. And also the GT block is still being made and has a 4 month waiting list : Which is 5mm taller then an N1 block and 3mm thicker walls than the N1 block.

hurry thier asses up to finish it then lol

Thats as bad as vending machines with used underwear. Nearly......

Happy birthday wil

For those that still havnt seen it