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Cheers Howie, I've been told that by the technician at my work as well. I'll probably sell off my 4850s and rebuild the system with new case, graphics, and probably a GB EP45-UD3 or similar after I change cars. Trav33, I'd recommend against the non-reference cooler ASUS HD4850 and HD4870s. The fans on these units ARE known to fail often and they do run hot, and being summer and all, this is not a good thing.

I reckon build quality, and like Nis said, airflow. Yup, I'm no master but. General advice for buying/building a new system: 1. Determine what the system will be used for, and a budget. 2. Research as much as you can about all the parts you intend to buy, and alternatives if the shop doesn't have the item in stock. 3. Try to stick to your budget. 4. Research. 5. If it's your first time building, read the manuals and look at youtube tutorials, and don't force anything in. Pretty much everything's been designed to go in one way, and if you're forcing it in then you're doing it wrong. If you're still not sure, pay the shop or find a techy mate to build it for you. Physical damage is not covered by warranty at most shops. 6. Research. 7. If you're going to be buying parts from MSY Clayton, PLEASE LINE UP IN THE CORRECT LINE. I built myself a system for about 1350-1400 odd (staff prices and excluding monitor) a few months ago, before the price hikes. I had a general idea of what I wanted to get but now, thinking back, it was such a waste of money. Intel E8500 (probably the best decision I made while building this system) ASUS P5Q-Pro (probably not that great a choice for crossfire, being P45 chipset and all) 4gb Kingston HyperX DDR2 800 kit WD 160gb + WD 640gb 2x 512mb ASUS HD4850s (getting two was waste of money, I don't game often anymore so one card would have been enough) Antec Nine Hundred case (ricey case ftl, should have waited and bought an Antec P182) Antec TruePower 650W (good unit, but I wish I got the NeoPower for the modular cables) The case and PSU were impulse buys, without proper research. Bought the case because what I wanted wasn't available, and I needed a case then and there. The PSU was because CPL didn't have the Corsair HX620s in stock Oh, advice #8: Don't be impulsive and agree to what the salesman says unless you've researched it beforehand.

Pretty good system overall, nice one Nis. The EP45T UD3R is a DDR3 board though, so you'd be looking for the EP45 UD3R to use with the DDR2.

Autotrust today at my work Hope all goes well mate

Happy birthday

I was helping out in the store room, shit load of cases came in and no space to put them I heard RB and saw your wing mounts Then a minute or two later some more RB and wing mounts leaving, hah No parts for you! Back of line!

MSY

Funky and Rekin at my work today Funky bought something Rekin walked in and then out

R31Nismoid and Dilmah (i think?) today at my work /gasp

No worries, did the card readers work ok? I don't have a VR4 though..

SAU member at MSY Malvern today

MNP 33 GT-R at my work this evening (MSY) Sorry about the wait man :\

Would love to go, but tickets are too expensive for me

Belated happy birthday, sounds like you had a good one

Looking good mate Bought the euro from Courtney and Patterson Honda as well, awesome service there

I meant the cafeteria under hargrave library, oops, I'm not sure what that place is called.

Rekin at hg cafe i think

White R32 GT-R waiting at the lights at Monash freeway offramp/Blackburn rd and HAXORZ R34 further down Blackburn rd, around 6ish

so hot emsta too

I'd say the lower stands are Do Luck items: http://www.do-luck.co.uk/images2/3w.jpg http://www.do-luck.co.uk/images2/6w.jpg http://www.do-luck.co.uk/r34gtr.htm (UK link) http://www.do-luck.com/ni_sky_bnr34.html (JP link) The site lists them as carbon rear wing stays

Easily finishable in one sitting. You buy the game for the online play, not the offline.

damn right. mates and i tried finishing it on vet, and we've only made it up the stairs and cleared the first room before the time runs out. boom.

http://www.cross-factory.com/R342d.htm

Happy birthday Matt Make it a good one

apex'i exhaust valve controller = flap in exhaust which can be adjusted, controlling volume and flow etc. http://www.importscene.com.au/prod466.htm if you don't mind, how much did you pay?