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No, but you are ignoring peoples (the press, whoever conducts an enquiry/witch hunt etc) demands that something be done. Which is probably not unreasonable given what has happened but even if it is unreasonable maybe it is also unarguable for the FIA. The least difficult change would be to put out a safety car when cars are being recovered in the wet. Which doesn't change much at all. Having imaginary lines on the circuit for enforcing speed zones just makes it hard for everyone. Drivers will always go hard up until the line like they do on pit lane entries. Which isn't ideal.

For example? Be interested to know.

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Well I would argue if its wet and some one is in the fence and you need to recover it with a forklift you do need a safety car. Besides what constitutes slow is arguable. You would know you self that knocking 10km/h off your corner speed feels massively slower to the driver than it really is. Given the down force shed by going slower it doesn't necessarily make it safer. Bianchi's accident would have been catastrophic at most speeds.

Maybe. Maybe they could just restrain themselves and stop trying to reorder the grid. With all the fake overtaking and blue flags it isn't the problem it used to be. Guess the point is the forks shouldn't be out recovering cars when people are pressing on in the wet. The difference being how you treat things in the wet and the dry as if its dry you have atleast some chance of influencing the outcome of where you crash.

Yes you are right. I was looking at the valve lift curve which has them marked as the same thing. But the tables to the left show them separately. For these cams there are 4 degrees difference between the durations at 1mm and at 50 thou. 26_a_in_260_915_ex_252_915_32_33_e.pdf 26_b_260_915_32_33_e.pdf RB26DETT_256-925_3233_e.pdf

Yeah the Tomei stuff reads as 50 thou or 1mm - which goes to show they are sh!t at conversions. Harsh ramp is a killer of valve trains as well as high lift, just not so much on RB's?

Cheers dude. At 1mm you get: Poncam A Inlet: 226 degrees. Exhaust 218 degrees B Inlet 226 Exhaust 228 note: despite them both being a nominal 260 degrees on the same lift the get different numbers at 1mm lift. 256 camshaft: Inlet 225 degrees Exhaust 223 degrees. Compared with 234 degrees for Kelfords 182. So the Kelfords is still quite a bit bigger.

So would I. But I couldn't find it. Tomei: Type Application Duration(IN) Duration(EX) lift(IN) lift(EX) Part number MSRP(USD) A BNR32,BCNR33 260° 252° 9.15 9.15 143036 $580.00 BNR34 143037 B BNR32,BCNR33 260° 260° 9.15 9.15 143005 BNR34 143018 * Type A Designed to best suit the stock & N1 turbos for optimum performance balance of low to mid range torque. The Exhaust cams duration was reduced to maintain best idling. * Type B By extending the duration timing compared to the Type A Poncams, both response and peak power was raised and these camshafts best compliment the mid to large size turbo charged applications. Kelford: 182 cam, notionally a 272 degree cam at 0.35mm lift. Duration @ 1.00mm VALVE LIFT Intake: 234 Exhaust: 234 Timing @ 1.00mm VALVE LIFT IVO: 7 BTDC EVO: 53 BBDC Just trying (and failing) to reconcile the two. Just like I failed with the google. Mostly returned Kasabian references.

Sooooooooo...... Does anyone know what lift the Tomei cam's duration is measured at?

Not saying they are lying, not saying they are wrong. Just saying I don't (necessarily) believe all marketing information fed my way. For example, despite all the promises I am less than refreshed after my last beverage so who knows. Cams are, more than most things, an exercise in matching lift/duration to all the other stuff you have going on (rev range, turbo, bore vs stroke, CR, fuel etc etc etc). A 272 may be an absolute weapon on an RB30/26 but hopeless on a 26. I don't know I haven't tried one. My limited experience was to go from Poncam B's to a 256/252 combination on a 26. Car made less power on an extra pound boost but was quicker. The biggest difference was in the low to mid range. So based on that extrapolating to 272 I cant reconcile it with what I had. Longer duration move your torque up the rpm range, which is more power. Careful cam selection can get you a wider torque curve which is what everyone is chasing. My rule of thumb on an RB26 test is how much power is made at 4000rpm. If it is thereabouts of 200 or more then response is pretty good. Much less and it is a bit hopeless. That is with petrol. E85 is different. The caveat was just to remind people that duration is measured at a small amount of lift. How much lift affects how much duration. Something to be mind full of so everything is apples and apples. Ultimately if shorter duration made more horsepower you would keep stock cams.

Just need to deploy the safety car in the wet when the recovery vehicle is out. Double waved yellows is not enough.

Yes shit does, in fact, happen. Which is why dropping a couple/three/four rounds from your results over the season is important as it allows the removal of random shit. Another example which proves it doesn't always work out that way anyway. In 1988 McLaren won 15 of 16 races. Both drivers knew that HAD to win races, points finishes would not count. None the less a double DNF at Imola almost affected the outcome. Prost scored more points over the season but Senna won the WDC on account of more wins and more points that counted. Both were doing all they could to win. Senna won 8, Prost 7. Fair result or should Prost have won on account of more second place finishes?

Well here is something to rock your world. When Jim Clark won the championship in 1965 he did so with 6 results out of the 10 races. He didn't even bother to compete in all of them. So lets see, if some gets piled into by say (random example) MALDONADO in the last race after going head to head all year that shows the other driver is 100% deserving?

You can ask Tomei to grind a number of different durations. Poncam inlets are 260's and either 252 or 260 exhaust. But you can get 256 durations, for example, just had to ask. Not 100% sure they are still available. 272 for low end power? An 260 degree Poncam is hopeless for low and cant imagine another 12 degrees, irrespective of lift, is going to help. Surprised by this. 260's are laggy, 250's not so but I lost hp dropping the exhaust cam duration. CAVEAT: Be very careful how much lift they are quoting for their durations. Eg Halfords is Advertised Duration @ 0.35mm Intake: 272 Exhaust: 272 Duration @ 1.00mm VALVE LIFT Intake: 234 Exhaust: 234

Nah they shouldn't. A random dnf shouldn't decide the outcome of the championship. They used to do 9 of 16 then 11 of 16 (from memory and for example) then the lot. Maybe with so many rounds and increased car reliability it isn't so much of an issue but I always thought being able to drop rounds promoted better racing.

Um, you get 25 point for a win. So given he is ten ahead that makes it 35. But then Rosberg would have lost some (7?) so it is 42. Which just goes to show how much a DNF hurts in the current points system It used to be better when you could drop some rounds off the tally. But it got too confusing for the commentators and everyone else to explain to the great unwashed. So all rounds count and double points for the last round.

Given Penske are buying DJR next year this may be of interest to some; http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/racing-history/penskes-most-successful-seasons/ Also Mark Donohue's bio/auto bio (was ghost written) The Unfair Advantage is well worth a look.

Vettel insisted he was not leaving because he was being outshone by Ricciardo or because of the rough season he had been having. “That’s obviously the way people look at it, but that’s not the way I see it,” said Vettel. “We had a very, very good time and I still hope we have a very good five races this year. I’m not leaving because I don’t like the team, I’m not leaving because I don’t like individuals, or I don’t like the situation. “I’m not running away from anything. But as I said it felt like the right time, the voice inside me, the hunger to do something new, was bigger, even though it’s not the easiest decision, the easiest consequences to deal with.”

Or just leave it alone and don't replace the speedo - thus conserving the integrity of the reading and helping you out when you come to sell it.

P2 results. Usual story I guess. Dan only did 3 laps - had an off I think. Apparently Verstappen did ok in P1 too for what that is worth. Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps 1 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:35.078 28 2 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:35.318 0.240 27 3 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 1:36.279 1.201 24 4 22 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.409 1.331 28 5 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:36.436 1.358 24 6 7 Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:36.529 1.451 19 7 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:36.637 1.559 26 8 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Mercedes 1:36.714 1.636 31 9 26 Daniil Kvyat STR-Renault 1:36.943 1.865 27 10 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 1:37.186 2.108 3 11 25 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Renault 1:37.219 2.141 19 12 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 1:37.504 2.426 16 13 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault 1:37.563 2.485 31 14 19 Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 1:37.700 2.622 18 15 11 Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 1:37.786 2.708 8 16 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Renault 1:37.798 2.720 27 17 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.010 2.932 25 18 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber-Ferrari 1:38.365 3.287 9 19 9 Marcus Ericsson Caterham-Renault 1:39.069 3.991 22 20 17 Jules Bianchi Marussia-Ferrari 1:39.306 4.228 20 21 4 Max Chilton Marussia-Ferrari 1:39.333 4.255 24 22 10 Kamui Kobayashi Caterham-Renault 1:42.760 7.682 3

Sort of a photo but can someone help out with how these should be cropped? Obviously something vaguely panoramic but I keep getting told not to put the horizon near the middle which sort of screws up the symmetry.

Caterham themselves say they aint dead. Also https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/project-brabham now at 162 thousand pounds.

What substance would you use to "service" a wiring loom that would potentially contaminate the electronics that the loom plugs in to? Think hair gel is a more believable explanation.

No just tuned.