Well i went from spinning my 255 nankangs in 1st 2nd and 3rd gears with a kaaz 2 way until today when i threw on a set of nitto invos it only spins a little bit in 1st and 2nd now but these tyres are almost silent whilst breaking traction CRAZY only drove them bout 15km home and im VERY impressed so far Going for a drive in the hills tomorrow to see how they are in the twisties