Quality Or Sh!t?

[sindows]

I was bored. Came home from the pub and wacked "turbo" into an ebay search.

Came up with a few things.

I currently have a R33 GTST and im wanting to do a turbo upgrade. Dont want to spend too much, but dont want some cheap peice of shit hanging off my manufold!

Give me your thoughts on the following three turbos:

1. - MonstA T70 800HP - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...mMakeTrack=true

2 - BRAND NEW GT28RS - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BRAND-NEW-GT28RS-BA...1QQcmdZViewItem

3 - MonstA T3/T4 T04E 600HP - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MonstA-T3-T4-T04E-6...1QQcmdZViewItem

Out of the MonstA's are they cheap shit or just underpriced turbos?

Give me your thoughts

[R31Nismoid]

Ok...

Whats your power goal?

What mods do you have?

Whats your budget?

[sindows]

Ok...

- About 220 - 250rwkw

- At the moment this is what is done to the car:

- POD

- Brass button clutch

- 3" from the turbo

- Short Shift kit

- FMIC

- As little as possible - Not over $3.5k

[BHDave]

The 2 monsta turbos are probably a bit bigger than you want to run on an internally stock rb25, not withstanding the unknown quality issue.

The gt28rs is probably a bit small (and t2 flanged) something like a 2871 with one of the bigger exhaust housings would give a good result (ive seen 240 rwkw on an rb25 from one) but also it is t2 flanged so requires a new dump, adapter plate, oil and water lines, oil return and possibly a bit of custom work on the intake side aswell.

Once you cost all that up it is probably about the same money as ripping your turbo off and sending it off to GCG for a highflow then bolting it back on when you get it back. No messing with lines, dumps or piping and good for 250+rwkw.

[R31Nismoid]

but then... this thread was last week!!!!

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...opic=103351&hl=

[BHDave]

lol....

[paulr33]

id say bolt on twin t88s with stock ecu and then it should be fine

wont be much lag and will come on boost around 11000rpm

perfect for the street.

have u done a search? the mods needed to make power include more than just the power, generally picking the turbo is the last thing you do. sum up all the bolt on mods you will need to gain the most benefit out it with real hardware then work out your turbo budget. and pick one that suits your power goal, not one that suits an 800hp if you plan to only use 280hp of it.

all of this info is clearly on the forums already on what parts you need and where to get there, just need some common sense and researching done on your behalf.

[paulr33]

imho you wont get a good usable power setup for 3.5k

youll need at least 5k to get it working corectly

ecu 1500

turbo 2500

injectors 800

tyres 700

clutch 1100

cold air intake 450

airflow meter 300

[paulr33]

lets pretend you bolt on the gt28rs and it costs you say 700

then you have to change the flange say 300

then have the oil and water lines done and fitted 150

so its cost you around 1100 then you drive around and hit stock boost cut, so you need piggyback to workaround or aftermarket ecu

then you get a piggyback spend a few weeks stuffing arouind with it and then realise you should have just gotten a stand alone ecu then when you do the stock clutch slips, then when thats ok you max out injectors, then you have to fit new injectors. and so on

you can bolt it all on live on the 230-240rwkw borderline and have everything max out or do it properly and be safe

[paulr33]

gcg hiflow is best bang per $ and proven many many times, $2000 bolt on. no unknown flanges, weird wheels and busted / dodgy ebay traders.

[discopotato03]

gcg hiflow is best bang per $ and proven many many times, $2000 bolt on. no unknown flanges, weird wheels and busted / dodgy ebay traders.

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First and third probably too big , serious doubts if no 2 is a GT28RS - looks dodgy .

Cheers A .

[R31Nismoid]

essentially dont get anything from ebay.

get it from a proper Garrett Dealer

[Slide]

Chinese mass produced turbos like the above are of poor build quality and last for a day.

I know this because i make turbochargers and have seen what happens all to often to these turbo's.

Buying copied turbos with Garrett Model numbers should be the first alarm to go off especially when there is no manufacturer markings at all on them apart from turbocharger and ar size.

[CruiseLiner]

the trouble is everyone wants everything for nuthin these days

i want 700hp at wheels for budget of $200, any chance?

f**kin ebay is a killer, these turbos, and fake bov's, wastegates, manifolds are absolute shit and if u cant do it properly then dont do it!

whats the point of spending $800 on a shit turbo that aint gonna last when garret genuine ones are only $1600-2K which is gonna actually work and last for a long time.

i think nismoids comment about "i can say i got a gt30/t70 etc sounds like a beast" but it goes slower and runs worse than a stock turboed car is 100% true.

long live the china products, and ebay the classiest performance parts on earth most of the time :lol: