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All I'm saying is I too was just like yourself until the Core2 Duo systems..

For a 'normal' gaming system for some one with a budget they are far better off running decent brand cheaper ram like Kingston, supertalent or A-data and then pushing the $$ they save in to possibly more ram, better hard drive, bigger monitor or a cpu with a higher multi.

Upgrade have a play and see how much ram really does not affect the performance of a c2d system; $$ much better invested else where.

It really is considerably different to the old AMD's and how they really love low latency and fast ram.

With the C2D systems if you are squeezing the system and pushing over 400fsb (800ddr2) and max'd out the cpu's multi grab that quicker ram as its most definitely beneficial as it allows a quicker cpu. If not well its simply money wasted.

If you hunt around there's a few articles on the c2d system, latency, ram speed and fsb speed and how its all fairly immune. My findings are the same. Raw clock speed FTW. :P

Upgrade have a play and see how much ram really does not affect the performance of a c2d system; $ much better invested else where.

It really is considerably different to the old AMD's and how they really love low latency and fast ram.

Yeah but Im anal about stuff and I dont do it by halves. I just did a quick shopbot search for the components that I'd need to justify the upgrade and it takes me to $2k easily ;P Money I'm gonna be spending on new gearbox and buying the conzult/eee combo :P

-D

With respect to my system, which is what post was quoted with regard to DDR2-800 RAM - I'm not an overclocker.

I prefer to buy reasonable hardware that will do all I ask of it for as long as I want it to perform.

I don't need every last iota of performance from my pc, just something pretty solid.

With regard to the guy looking to build a new system - what are you looking to spend, and what do you have already that you can carry over, like a screen for example.

You say you want a gaming machine, but what kinds of games will you play?

I'm not having a dig at anyone, but people seem to find it very easy to spend someone elses money on a forum - you are the one that has to live with the choices - you don't have to spend $5k on a gaming system to have fun.

I recently spent...

M/board - $130

CPU - $90

4GB ram - $90

Vid - $100

Has no issues running GRID at 1680x1050 with medium settings; BF2 at full settings, COD4 at medium.

The cpu is clocked to 3ghz on stock volts (333x9); ram running at 800mhz.

Runs perfectly the young lad loves it in GRID; dropping burnouts and putting the brake on as he puts it. :P

It runs the games I like most quite well; COD4 and BF2.

Hell even Crysis it did damn well.

The system is not cpu bound so throwing a better vid card at it will no doubt increase in game performance noticeably.

Its still running on an old Antec 380w truepower that I recapped a couple of yearse ago due to the typical leaky fuji caps.

The PSU seems to be handling it well and given the watt calc requirements it should be perfectly fine.

Realistically the only time you require a topline PSU is when running the super hungry GX2 failing that a Seasonic 430w or 550 will cut it for all other applications unless your some hard drive whore. :D

Cubes, I have an Antec TP3 550 that died on me pretty early - I think it was still in warranty but I couldn't find the receipt.

Could you have a look at it for me possibly? - it's a brick at the moment so if you kiled it trying to fix it there wouldn't be any problem.

Would pay for parts and could provide incentive on request.

Would like to get some more use out of a $150 PSU.

Cubes, I have an Antec TP3 550 that died on me pretty early - I think it was still in warranty but I couldn't find the receipt.

Could you have a look at it for me possibly? - it's a brick at the moment so if you kiled it trying to fix it there wouldn't be any problem.

Would pay for parts and could provide incentive on request.

Would like to get some more use out of a $150 PSU.

No problems..

Providing its been powered off for a while pull the top off yourself and check out the caps; see if the top is bulged and or leaking.

If so then thats the cause. www.badcaps.net is where you can obtain good capacitors for an excellent price.

I've got some from there on a few occasions for various old motherboards and PSU's.

I've had a few other antec's let go in different manners in recent times.

One took out a new motherboard and burnt the PCB of the power supply. I was told 'after' the power supply was making a high pitched noise prior to letting go. If only I was told prior. :)

Another one simply died with no reason for it doing so.

So no more Antec's for myself they have done their dash. Seasonic all the way.

I believe some of the new Antecs are made by Seasonic. (neo etc) but still only genuine seasonic as you never know when they will change manufacturers.

did a recomendation and build for mid-life-crisie here

met him monday to build it, had monitor issues so finished at home, took it back yesterday

my old case, Soprano thermaltake

E8400 dual core cpu, lightly o/cd to 3.2ghz

2x 2gb 800mhz ram

asus p5ne-sli board, o/cd to 1420mhz ($150)

2x 160gb sata hd in Raid0 aray

thermaltake 750w toughpower psu ($190)

2x 8800gt galaxy gpu's, in Sli mode ($415)

sata dvd, g5 mouse etc

$1200

got 15000 3dmarks out of the box, 16000 with the 7.5% o/c to cpu/mobo

very nice for a budget

3 employees, one from microsoft, one from sun, and one from apple are in a restroom, at the urinals. when the microsoft employee is done he washes his hands, and dries his hands completely with like 10 paper towels. "at microsoft," he says, "we're very thorough." the sun employee finishes, washes his hands, dries them with 1 paper towel. "at sun we're very thorough AND very efficient." the apple engineer leaves without washing his hands, and says "at apple, we don't piss on our hands."

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