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sounds a bit different to ebay specials and china copies dont it :D

(love u long time)

Im sure eveyone has bought something from ebay in their time that didnt turn out to be what they thought they were getting...

Shit happens I guess and that what you get for shopping online with someone you dont know...

I guess the old saying is true "You get what you pay for"

were u bashed as a child? or are u naturally retarded?

:blush:

That would explain a lot... But no I cant blame either, just blame the keyboard...

haha ebay specials and china copies work shane.....just not for very long.

I can assure you, also not when put under any real pressure or continued use.

apparantly so, just ask col :D

Im sure eveyone has bought something from ebay in their time that didnt turn out to be what they thought they were getting...

Shit happens I guess and that what you get for shopping online with someone you dont know...

I guess the old saying is true "You get what you pay for"

That would explain a lot... But no I cant blame either, just blame the keyboard...

ur soo serious col, its whoretown ffs :D

Yeah I got a HKS copy wastegate, been good now for 12 months...

Done a few trackdays, have not had an issue with it at all...

If and when i breaks ill go and buy a real one from a shop/seller i can trust...

Its all just politics Dave, different people take what is said differentlly. I guess you just need to put yourself in their shoes from time to time to help understand a situation.

The forum is not a good communicator full stop, what is said can be taken a million ways its all down to those who read a post. It might seem harmless to one person yet really offensive to another, so is the moderators job to try and find middle ground and explain the situation to both parties.

Unfortunatlly this process will always end with one person thanking you and the other not so thank ful. Its a bit of a win/loose situation but there is little you can do to improve the situation other than to be a fence sitter, in which ase no one wins and everyone ends up unhappy. Like I said its a bit like federal politics, one persons idea of a good future is anothers nightmare and its the politicians job to get lap dances, i mean find middle ground where the majority are happy.

I guess sometimes you have to make line calls where its 51/49 another but the guidelines are very sound and help define the line for us who question what to do.

Hope this helps?

And we as users are adult enough to decide what offends us. We don't need someone to tell us what might offend us. If I find something offensive I'll report it. What exactly is the button at the bottom of every post there for if moderators are going to make our decisions for us?

Maybe if everyone lightened the f#%k up, we all might be able to get along. Most people who have had their posts modified or deleted have not broken ANY rules. If you don't like the look of something, it gets changed or removed....even when people are just voicing their opinion involving no personal attacks.

The rules only state no personal attacks or defamation, no profuse swearing etc. Not telling someone you think they are making the wrong decision or you think they are stupid.

Line calls aren't what's needed - if someone has a problem with something that has been said USE THE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM TO REPORT IT.

You have been for a ride in the car shane, does it work???

Im not saying it will last for ever, im sure there is a quality difference. But you must admit it works well yeah... :)

nfi, i was too busy smiling from teh wheelspin :blush:

P.S real HKS = shit anyways, i bet the copy is betterer :D

As for the manifold you know I had it re-constructed before use, basiclly ripped apart cleaned up and welded back together with larger support tabs for each runner...

Was quite a job and was not cheap either but it works really well... As I said a few trackdays and many hours on the dyno and its stong as another branded manifold...

It works, if it breaks ill fix it i guess... But I was built for track days in mind, so Im confident it wont break...

And we as users are adult enough to decide what offends us. We don't need someone to tell us what might offend us. If I find something offensive I'll report it. What exactly is the button at the bottom of every post there for if moderators are going to make our decisions for us?

Maybe if everyone lightened the f#%k up, we all might be able to get along. Most people who have had their posts modified or deleted have not broken ANY rules. If you don't like the look of something, it gets changed or removed....even when people are just voicing their opinion involving no personal attacks.

The rules only state no personal attacks or defamation, no profuse swearing etc. Not telling someone you think they are making the wrong decision or you think they are stupid.

Line calls aren't what's needed - if someone has a problem with something that has been said USE THE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM TO REPORT IT.

now shrek, tell us what u really think :blush:

P.S i agree, but then again whats the point in argueing? our posts will just get deleted and modified :D

And we as users are adult enough to decide what offends us. We don't need someone to tell us what might offend us. If I find something offensive I'll report it. What exactly is the button at the bottom of every post there for if moderators are going to make our decisions for us?

Maybe if everyone lightened the f#%k up, we all might be able to get along. Most people who have had their posts modified or deleted have not broken ANY rules. If you don't like the look of something, it gets changed or removed....even when people are just voicing their opinion involving no personal attacks.

The rules only state no personal attacks or defamation, no profuse swearing etc. Not telling someone you think they are making the wrong decision or you think they are stupid.

Line calls aren't what's needed - if someone has a problem with something that has been said USE THE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM TO REPORT IT.

Yep, i agree.

nfi, i was too busy smiling from teh wheelspin :blush:

P.S real HKS = shit anyways, i bet the copy is betterer :D

Wheelspin = good fun

I cant blame the power tho, it had more to do with the shit rubber I had on those rims and the fact that the insides were a bit worn... (Bit worn = steel belts)

Yeah the copy is probablly made in the same place on the same production line, seriouslly they look identical... Just no badge where the badge goes...

now shrek, tell us what u really think :P

P.S i agree, but then again whats the point in argueing? our posts will just get deleted and modified :D

As you said its whoretown...

edit: Meaning post what ever you want... Its not going to get modified unless it breaks the guidelines... You know that...

i wouldnt call the track days as a real test of a car or engine setup, not enough laps. But i suppose its better then street use.

Yeah its not like a V8 supercar race where their door to door for 50 laps, but its cetrainlly 8-12 minutes worth of foot to the floor...

It certainlly gets the heat into everything, if a manifold is going to crack this is the place it will do it...

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