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drooling over taylor?

So wrong. Can you just imagine the song that shed write?

Just a dopey boy

Loving a f**ked up toy

Took the abomination

And did skids everywhere....

And they went on and on and on and on.

Sung to Journey's Don't Stop Believing.

Can someone please tell me that it was well-composed? I thought that it was a masterpiece.

it was well composed.

srsly, wasnt too bad.

as soon as I read the on and on part, thought journey.

Ok Whores, opinions required

Looking at a soft roader type rig, it is to replace the Mazda, so 4cyl is preferred, we need it to be able to take us camping and to take Annas make up gear on location, so a little bit of off roading is required ie if its a crappy dirt road or crossing a horse paddock it needs to be able to do it mainly to save Anna haling all her shit around on foot like she has to now. The car will still spend 90% of its time on the road around town too.

I narrowed it down to a Forrester 2008 -2012 or a 4cyl Grand Vitara in the same years.

In terms of engines, external size and equipment they are more or less equal. Same price pretty much

The Forester is the more car like apparently, is 100kg lighter. The Low range is only 1.2 ish so not very low at all. Does have an electronic diff lock as well which is handy. Also comes with roof rails (swags can go up there) and a 450L/1600L load area. 220mm of clearance.

The Grand Vitara is more truck like, has a proper low range at 1.9, a faux ladder frame chassis, also has a electronic locker and hill decent assist. It has a smaller load area, 380L/758L and no roof rails. 200mm of clearance.

What say the whores?

if you go the subie, make sure to keep up the servicing with the upper engine cleaner.

you probably have, but have you considered xtrail or awd dualis?

dualis might be a little soft for what you want, but does have electric centre lock.

more car type.

just food for thought.

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