Inter Coolers

[Madtrang]

Was thinking aqbout putting in an intercooler for my r32 gts-t.

Just like to know the pro's and con's of a front mount intercooler that runs through stock pipping vs ones were u buy or make a piping go back up to the motor via the right side of the car.

I realy dont want to cut a hole in my car, That's why im looking at the alternate options at the moment.

Thanx

[mad082]

blitz do a kit (well i know they do it for a 33, so i figure they'd do it for a 32) that runs back up an uses the factory piping in the engine bay. as long as you have it hooked up so that the long pipe under the intercooler is the hot pipe then its fine. the actual piping isn't much different to stock as they are usually the same size. the advantage of the piping running up the drivers side is that you have less chanse of damaging the piping. it is common for the pipe that runs back under the intercooler to get damaged when you hit something which mean that instead of just having to replace the intercooler you have to replace the piping as well. but performance wise it has more to do with the quality of the cooler more than the piping.

[Madtrang]

So if put a protective bracket inplace it should look atfer that problem to some extent.

Edited May 26, 2006 by Madtrang

[mad082]

unless you meet skippy on your way home or something like that.

[Madtrang]

Blitz kits are way expensive. Is there kits between the 400 - 1k mark

[mad082]

i don't know of any with the blitz setup that is cheap. i know there is a kit on this forum (not sure if its 32 or 33) for about $400, i think its in the group buy section. otherwise the retail on a hybrid kit is $999. but i'd say you will have to cut the hole. i think its a case of save money and cut a hole, or spend money and don't cut a hole.

[dezz]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...howtopic=117938

there's the $400 kit...they're not hybrid copies, but they use the same piping route...

blitz/arc kits are all $1200+ with the piping you're asking about...

[Beer Baron]

for a 32 GTST an ARC kit is the way to go. they are on sale at the moment in japan so i assume those savings are being passed on by people selling them here.

[GTAAAH]

you shouldnt have to much trouble with the hybrid kits if your car isnt type M. Mine took alot of extra piping and plumbing because it is Type-M (some extra bar in the way making my cooler stick out to far and the pipes not match) but cutting out the front bar is easy enough (bye bye rigidity)

I picked up the justjap kit for like $400 which is fair sweet i spose, its good enough quality (although down the bottom quite a few of the fins arent welded in str8 and are permanently mangled)

Im a cheap arse so i couldnt afford a decent one that runs thru standard piping. Cutting the hole below the battery isnt so bad, its not like a chassis rail or anything (i used a drill ) but if u have the $ a arent so good with hacking stuff up with powertools (like me) its probably worth spending the extra $. Im on day 7 of installation but if ur car isnt type-M should only take a night or 2

[Quinny]

If you are worried about cutting holes and stuff, why not just get someone else to install it? The people I have spoken to quote $200 to $400 for installation depending on the car and kit (i.e. what they have to modify), they will do the modifications to the front bar, cut holes, run piping etc, so much easier than trying to screw around with it yourself if you aren't too handy with tools.

[TTT]

look in the parts for sale section.

there is an AVO kit which uses the stock pipes in the engine bay.

the guy was asking $600 I think.

they are worth over $1100 new.

definitely worth it..

also, if you are not after more than say 200rwkw, you could buy a R34 GTT side mount intercooler.

it needs mods to the end tank which could be done for about $50 from any aluminium welding place.

[Madtrang]

you shouldnt have to much trouble with the hybrid kits if your car isnt type M. Mine took alot of extra piping and plumbing because it is Type-M (some extra bar in the way making my cooler stick out to far and the pipes not match) but cutting out the front bar is easy enough (bye bye rigidity)

I picked up the justjap kit for like $400 which is fair sweet i spose, its good enough quality (although down the bottom quite a few of the fins arent welded in str8 and are permanently mangled)

Im a cheap arse so i couldnt afford a decent one that runs thru standard piping. Cutting the hole below the battery isnt so bad, its not like a chassis rail or anything (i used a drill ) but if u have the $ a arent so good with hacking stuff up with powertools (like me) its probably worth spending the extra $. Im on day 7 of installation but if ur car isnt type-M should only take a night or 2

Were is the extra bar on the tpye M.. Cus that's the r32 i have. If it's the acutal metal piece on the bumpa then im all good cuz i had to cut it out for the gtr front bar. I realy dont want to cut a hole, but I'm going to know and I'll do it myself.. Just dont trust other people with my car when comes to things like that. Just though some money in on a group buy on an GKtech FMIC.

[G_Force]

Has anyone here installed one of the Hybrid GT kits or the GK Tech kits on a R34 GT-T? I'd imagine that a hole will also have to be cut on the chassis for the piping & some front bar trimmed but would the fan blades need to be trimmed as well like they would on a R33? Which is the more suitable size, 600x300x76? And is it the tube and fin thats more suitable for street cars(ie. short burst of power runs)?

Sorry not trying to hijack the thread, just thought others incl. myself would be interested in the outcome of not using std piping for a FMIC kit on a R34.

Cheers!!

[mad082]

the instructions that come with the kit are actually done on a r34, so yes you do have to cut blades and hole. and yes the tube and fin is the one considered better for street. but hyrbid no longer make the bar and plate according to the hybrid website.

[QRI05E]

If the Tube/Fin design is better for street use then why do people still fit the bar/plate coolers?

From my understanding the Tube/Fin flow better where the Bar/Plate cool better...

Hmmm you gave me a second thought about buying a Gktech FMIC kit as they are a Bar/Plate core... The HYBRID Gt Spec is a Tube/Fin... I dont mind paying the difference as long as its the better choice...

: CONFUSED NOW :

Edited May 29, 2006 by QRI05E

[mad082]

bar and plate are better for drag use as they take longer to heat up, but take longer to cool down and hold the heat more. for short bursts the bar and plate are better, but for track use the tube and fin are better. but on the street driving to work and a bit of a fang around it doesn't make that big of a difference.

[mad082]

another option would be to buy the gtech then buy a hybrid tube/fin cooler on its own and match the 2 up. the hybrid cooler should only cost about $300 so you basically get a hybrid setup for $700. but that is also about the same as you would pay on ebay for a hybrid kit.

[QRI05E]

I wont have the time and money to do that, thats why im asking for everyones opinion... But i think for my application the Gktech will do the job more then enough... im chasing 200+rw/kw atm... then my end goal is 300rw/kw... i think the difference between the Gktech and HYBRID is very minimal at those power levels...

Should be ordering my FMIC kit within the next week or two...

Cheers

Edited May 29, 2006 by QRI05E

[ellie]

Or you can do what I did and buy a second hand GTR intercooler and have the pipe work made up!

Cost my friend only $600 all up.

But if your capable like me than you can get an R33 GTR intercooler, make the pipe work up yourself (the hole required to cut has factory reinforcement around it because it's where GTR pipe work comes through standard and has been blocked off on the GTS-T - So safe,clean and structually sound! Plus the bonus I got from making up custom pipework was the 120degree to plenum set up which has been proven to cut at least 5L from the intake path = less lag) and all up cost me including getting my front bar intake hieghtend to give maximum air flow over the intercooler and resprayed = $650 = for a fully custom job!

[QRI05E]

$650 for a second hand GTR FMIC fitted is too much... would much rather spend $630 and buy the HYBRID GT Spec FMIC kit an at least its new with 12 months warranty...

I think the Gktech FMIC kit for $400 is a bargain and will do the job better then the GTR FMIC...

Thats my 2 cents...