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Hey guys I want to know your opinion. I have the oppurtunity to either get my hands on a r32 gtr or wrx evo3. Another option is to not get either and modify my stock gts-t instead. Ive also added the wrx as before I purchased the r33, I was a subie fan :D, they sound so darn nice modded. Help on insurance, fuel economy, performance and reliabilty would be appreciated.

cheers,

dooky.

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one of my friends has an evo4 .. its not any good til he hits boost since he put a big turbo in there with a motec... but when it does, it aint too bad ... my other friend has a my02 wrx havent had a ride it it so i can't say right now ... but hopefully soon ... now all i need is someone with a gtr and then i can tell u :D

R32 GTR would be my choice, I mean a car designed specifically for Group A racing or a Plain WRX with a few badges..how many "special editions do Subaro need!!!" , Club spec, evo, etc etc sigh...

I know what my choice would be.

Plus how many WRX's do you see, I don't even look twice anymore.

thank you for your replys, undecided still but am leaning towards the gtr but am concerned with its down sides e.g insurance, fuel economy, servicing.

The gtr is owned by a family friend who is willing to part with it for me for a resonable price yay! as she aint got the funds to run the car that much anymore [fuel consumption, my other concern].

Like the guy in the movie says:

"Gojira....Goojira"

Fuel consumption ? Depends on you right foot. You can get reasonable economy...but you'll be robbing y'self of fun.

WRX is not in the same league.

go the GTR !!

Why buy a performance car if you are concerned about fuel economy?

I reckon that any of those cars will be similar cost wise to maintain, same with the insurance

Go the R - so much more potential

before i purchased the gtst i didnt know that it would eat so much petrol ie ~ 70 p/w, and its stock - now i dont know if everybody else get around this mark, but it depends i know.This is average i fork out weekly.

Now the gtr that is avaliable comes modded ie power fc, zorst, fmic and b/c of that and the prices of petrol atm i looking @ expenses that would need to be put aside for it which isnt alot if purchased.

one of the forum members has an r32 with cams, pistons, upgraded turbos etc very nice package

from memory he has about 320-340rwkw

at the time he was still running the car in, just got it back from tuning. if that enough power for you, it is for me

he said he did about 400km per tank. it all depends on your right foot. If your worrying about the fuel consumption, u better get a daiwoo matiz dude

Put it this way, if you're worried abot fuel consumption....my 33 GTS-T uses a lot more fuel than my b/f's 32 GTR.

He gets about 400 out of a tank, and I only get about 350...

I was gonna buy a Rex but opted for the Skyline, a much nicer car overall if you ask me!! Rexes feel cheap inside..not as many luxury items!! :P

Or get a modded GTST, i will be selling my car soon, makes 234rwkw on 16psi boost, nice to drive everyday, gets 350km out of 55L ( remember GTR has bigger tank). My mate has a gtr and got 220rwkw with full exhaust, air filters a tune and about 14-15psi boost. My car is a little laggier but is still fine for the street. It will run 12 sec qtrs soon and i will be selling for low 20's with everything done to it. Compared to a gtr that will be $30,000 and in not as good condition a gts is a good alternative unless you want more HP (500+) then a gtr starts to look the goods.

If you are worried about fuel consumption do not buy a GTR. Best I’ve seen was a sedate cruise to Melbourne where I achieved 14l/100km's. Now for a relatively small capacity modern engine in conditions where there was no boost used, that is crap. Now I absolutely luv my GTR and would kill if someone tried to take it away from me but the fuel consumption for a freeway cycle is rubbish. For a serious run in the hills I’m lucky to get 300km's out of the 70L tank!!! But for me the pleasure of destroying WRX's in every other aspect (besides fuel consumption) makes it more than worth while. You may get better economy out of the WRX, but you’ll also have the pleasure of power understeer.

Fuel economy shouldn't much different on the 2 (in theory).

The WRX should be MORE to insure b/c they are a higher risk. One important factor insurance companies take into account when deciding on a premium for a car is: How many claims have been made against this car!!!!! The WRX is therefore considered a higher risk than a GTR, so it is should cost more to insure!

RB motors, gearboxes, diffs etc are a good quality build, and designed for punishment. WRX's (although I still think they are good cars) are not of the same quality, and more prone to failure.

GTR's look much much better too.

there's my argument!

thanx for your input guys, ive decided for the mean time to go for the gtr over the wrx and over modding my gtst. What i will take into considertation now is how much it will cost to insure as currently it costs me $3, 300 comprehensive for my gtst, im 20 and its my first car ive insured. Apparently the GTr is going to cost me alot more, but that is another issue. In the mean time, I will be getting the car for a few days to drive to make my decision and place a deposit. Cant wait to drive it!!

I'm not sure if this is the case with all insurance companies but it was actually cheaper for my b/f to insure a GTR than a GTS-T.

The insurance company told him that because there are fewer GTRs driven by older people, there is a lesser accident/theft rate, therefore cheaper insurance.

Have no idea if this is true, but his insurance was pretty reasonable for his GTR.

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