EPA random tests

[Ronin 09]

Basically started off with a random breath test on doncaster road near westfield. Blew clear, then like 20m down the road another lot were set up - the EPA for random emissions testing.

My mate got defected in his brother's 300ZX TT tonight - too low, bald rears and no number plate lights. What interested me more was that he passed the EPA random test. I will check with him tomorrow, but i'm pretty sure that this car has gutted cats... What worries me now is that if i get random EPA tested, will my car pass the emissions test...? It has a 'race cat' but i suppose the question really is - can the car still pass emssions without the cat?

Has anyone ever been random checked by the EPA?

[rs73]

If EPA found out your car have no cat in that random testing on the spot, it'll cost you huge fine, someone said like $10,000 or around that.

[Guest INASNT]

damn lucky i didnt go past there, since i just finished dealing with those epa ***s.

do they test db of exhaust at the mobile station 2?

We need to all get cb radios or sumthing so that if some1 spots 1 of these random check stations they can warn the rest of us about it.

[Ronin 09]

OK, by what i know, they do the whole noise test and emissions test on the spot, i guess they'd do a look over of your engine bay too.

But still, CAN the car pass the emissions test without / with a gutted cat? Does anyone know?

[Guest INASNT]

a skylne prob could coz they run preety clean anyway

[Ronin 09]

Inasnt, know anyone with an EGA?

[Guest INASNT]

nope

funkymonkeys uncle works for them tho

[Guest ylwgtr]

ummm i think he means an exhaust gas analyser

[Zdenko]

mann they do this allways in altona

they have a big line goin on breath test then epa trys to dick ya!!

[MIKGTR]

Faulty or no CAT will definitely show up on EGA as they will get a high hydrocarbon reading. I haven't seen the equipmeny they are using at the moment but I'm reasonably sure they haven't changed the way they check. As for the $10,000 fine, I've never heard of this being issued against any individual.....has anyone else?

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by ylwgtr

ummm i think he means an exhaust gas analyser

opps misread that!

Ring up a few exhaust places, 1 of em should have 1, not nuttin special from when i had to go to epa in mcloud to get mine done

[Sideways]

Hey Inasnt

I went for my EPA test at Macloud today... (I was suppose to go last week, but I had put it off till this week)

I passed the noise test right on the nose at 90db !!!

talk about close....

As for Emissions test - didn't even test it.. he said skylines run very clean - so he didn't bother to test it... The fact the my Low Fuel Warning Light was glaring him in the eyes while he did the noise test may have atributed to his desission not to do the emissions test..

But the big thing is that the Sound test was done at 5100 rpm

(not the usual 3200 rpm that the exhaust shops test at)

He said that a Twin Turbo 2.6 L has to be tested at 5100...

At the EPA they work off a more detailed Vehicle Reference Book then the epa approved exhaust shop test centers have...

And as the test centers don't have the detailed book - they test at the default for a NA 6 cyl. which is 3200rpm....

They also also asked me if I had changed my exhaust since my last EPA test in november 2002 when it tested at 85db at an exhaust shop test center... I said "Yes, I changed it when I got this latest epa notice... if I am going to get epa notices while running with a 85 db muffler then I might as well run one that is 90db"

He said "fair enough" and passed me

Originally posted by INASNT

opps misread that!

Ring up a few exhaust places, 1 of em should have 1, not nuttin special from when i had to go to epa in mcloud to get mine done

[ice180]

fark thats too close to home things getting scary now... haven't seen an epa testing station out in the burbs yet..

[Guest INASNT]

sideways

they tested my car at 5100rpm 2. I was gonna ask them wtf they were doing but since it only read 83db with thew stock exhaust i used for that day i didnt say anything.

My car was actually running rich as they told me coz i put back on all the stock stuff which changed all the flows. Did a tall guy with glasses and grey beard test your car?

[NewKleer]

i think theyre supposed to test at around 3/4 of the redline

for engineers certificate for my rb25 silvia, it test was carried out at 5625 (3/4 of 7500) and did 89.5 dBa on (what i think is) a 2.5" full exhaust with canon (exhaust pics here)...this is nsw though, not sure on differences with vic

[Blade]

I dont have a cat at all

All i have is 1 straight through 3 inch pipe lol

They cant give u a 10k fine on the spot...i bought my car from the dealer with no cat...it had rwc and everything so its the dealers fault...not mine

[Horus]

actually they can give you a hefty fine if you dont have a cat...just read the vicroads website

[skylinesteve]

i would like to say ive been done with epa on saterday night i have no cat i got $2000 fine for waste and poulltion as i wasent sure on this in vic as i still have my south aussie plates still on my car as they didnt defect me just fine me and belive me it ant worth not haveing one it sucks for all those who dont have a cat belive me get one the fine is 2 rich and they said they catch me again and i still dont have it fixwd they well double the fine and they keep on double it until u get one so go and getone mates

[Ronin 09]

so you're in melb now mate?

[SKY031]

haha who keeps dragging up these really old threads!