Power Fc Or Afc Neo?

[PAV34]

Liz - what split pipe did you have?? what was wrong?

[Sydneykid]

ive been getting a mixed response, even from workshops....hence my confusion...

The reason why you have been getting mixed responses is because you haven’t fully thought through what it is exactly that you are trying to achieve. The fact is you have already “boosted” it, by removing the restrictions in the exhaust you have increased the airflow. The turbo is flowing more air, hence it is working harder and revving higher. So if you are intent on not “boosting” in an attempt to avoid turbo wear, you have already failed in that regard.

Secondly, in a turbo charged engine, the real advantage is you can easily, quickly and cheaply increase the power output by increasing the airflow though the engine. Reducing restrictions (as you have already done) is one of those items, increasing the boost to a “safe” level is another, the third is improving the tune for power productivity.

By increasing the airflow you have already put the standard ECU outside its operating parameters. It is currently running rather rich and somewhat retarded in its ignition timing. Any further mods will simply exacerbate that poor state of tune.

So, my best suggestion is to think carefully about what it is you want to achieve, set a power target and determine what uses you are going to put the car. If you enunciate those things then you will find that you get solid and consistent responses.

cheers

Edited June 23, 2006 by Sydneykid

[Liz]

Liz - what split pipe did you have?? what was wrong?

I had a 3inch split dump pipe from place in Sydney, the welding wasn't ground back causing more turbulance rather than less, and also the pipe wasn't a direct fit and exhaust hole was actually smaller than stock causing the wastegate to not open fully causing significant overboosting.

The exhaust was done by HiTech in Sydney, and have offered to replace the part free of charge with a correct part. I would recommend HiTech to anyone getting an exhaust, they know what they are doing and released the mistake straight away and fixed me up.

At least I know now to check the parts before they get put on!

[PAV34]

i realise a turbo back exhaust has already 'boosted' the turbo because its less restrictive, but what i was trying to say is that i wouldnt go any further. i think i pretty much have said what i want to acheive, if your still confused, i dont know what else i could say.

Basically mechanics and other drivers with the afc and pfc have said in relation to my car, a pfc is over doing it, but they think i should get it INCASE i choose to futher modify the engine

[otto]

i realise a turbo back exhaust has already 'boosted' the turbo because its less restrictive, but what i was trying to say is that i wouldnt go any further. i think i pretty much have said what i want to acheive, if your still confused, i dont know what else i could say.

Basically mechanics and other drivers with the afc and pfc have said in relation to my car, a pfc is over doing it, but they think i should get it INCASE i choose to futher modify the engine

sounds like youve awnered your question, your final conclusion is spot on! Its just up to you to make the desision cause unfortunatly we cant do that for you and would take away all the fun of customizing your car.

good luck!

[smurf80]

For limited mods as you have stated id go the SAFC a power FC would be overkill. If you decide to change things more in the future sell the SAFC and buy a power FC.

Chris

Edited June 23, 2006 by alphanumeric

[Sydneykid]

i realise a turbo back exhaust has already 'boosted' the turbo because its less restrictive, but what i was trying to say is that i wouldnt go any further. i think i pretty much have said what i want to acheive, if your still confused, i dont know what else i could say.

Basically mechanics and other drivers with the afc and pfc have said in relation to my car, a pfc is over doing it, but they think i should get it INCASE i choose to futher modify the engine

Let’s talk specifics;

1. What is your power target?

2. What do you use the car for? Road, circuit, drag?

3. What other tings are important to you? Reliability, fuel economy, resale value, cost, response?

4. What is your budget?

cheers

[PAV34]

1) Reasonbly happy with the power, just want to improve the other things i have mentioned

2) Everyday use.

3) All of the above, reliability and response & performance mainly though.

4) No expense spared really, i dont like taking shortcuts.

Is there any thing other than what i have mentioned in this thread i could do to improve perfrormance besides boosting?

Edited June 26, 2006 by PAV34

[PAV34]

anyone got dimensions on the afc neo and the safcII?

[seriesII]

hey all.. just bringing up a old subject instead of a new one..

im happy with around 200rwkw.. will a apexi neo afc be ok for me?. how much kw at the wheels will this allow until i need to upgrade to a ecu?.. also, will this allow me to get a different afm?, like a q45?. or will i need a ecu for this?. thanx..

Edited July 17, 2007 by seriesII

[mad082]

safc will allow you to go to a z32, but not sure about q45.

but a safc will easilly get you 200kw provided you have all the right supporting gear. people have gone over 200kw with them.

[seriesII]

awesome..thanx so much for the help.. helped me made up me mind.. .cool z32 should be a bit beta i guess..

any one used one of these and seen the limit they could get until they needed to upgrade to a ecu?..

[brizzi]

Put my afc neo in got it tuned today

Mods are:

Cold air intake

pod

front mount

3" exhaust

8 psi boost

split dump pipe

221kw @thw

Anthony at Turbotechnics was very friendly to deal with! Great bloke

[delljit]

221rwkw at 8psi and only those mods?

[smasht]

anyone know where i can buy a power fc?

[seriesII]

221rwkw sounds like alot for 8psi.. but if so , damn, nice figures with those mods.. was that a rb25det or a rb20det engine?...