Them Crazy Americans And Their Turbos

[Guest Mashrock]

Can anyone remember the website with the yanks who put the turbo's at the rear of their exhaust. and have the lines running all the way back to the front?

its been a while since i have been there and forgotten where i came across it.

[mad082]

haven't seen that before, would be interested in having a look too.

i heard of, but not seen, a guy put 8 turbos on a v8 in the states. it took about 20 seconds of reving to get the manifold glowing red. it was on an old chevy or something, and the intercooler was nearly the width of the car, which is huge cause those old yank tanks are about 2 lanes wide.

[scathing]

Funny you should mention it, but it cropped up on another site I frequent recently.

Squires Turbo Systems

[CEF11E]

Underbonnet temps would be great, so would intake temps. But Hello Lag

also those exhausts look very restrictive.

[Guest Mashrock]

Funny you should mention it, but it cropped up on another site I frequent recently.

Squires Turbo Systems

thanks thats the one!!

Underbonnet temps would be great, so would intake temps. But Hello Lag

also those exhausts look very restrictive.

and apparently lag is not a problem.

[walkoau]

i seen a commodore at the recent automotive trade fair in sydney exhibition hall a couple of weeks ago that had the set up ur talking about, 1 turbo though, it was mounted way back at the arse end i think it was even behind the diff, then the miles of alloy piping to get to the intercooler. it looked a bit silly. shame i cant remeber the company name that had it on show.

[Guest Mashrock]

my friend is doing a bmw at the moment.

and i wanted to explain it to my mate at work who was thinking of charging his ba ute.

[The_Paladin]

if you want a turbo ford ute, then get a XR6T. just change the chip and put a high flow exaust on it and you'll be on your way.

[VB-]

yeh i saw one tv where they did a turbo kit like that on sum POS ricer, think it mighta been a civic, there excuse was underbonnet space (might not have been a civic, coz i think the exhaust manifold was on the rear side of the engine).

not only would there be massive lag from the length of the cooler pipes etc, but the exhaust will have lost almost all of its heat (from 900 or whatever straight out of the head, to cool enough you can hold your hand over the exhaust tip) and there would be sweet f*ck all thermal expansion and all those wonderful things that actually makes a turbo spool up. leave this one for the civic with full sick neons bro

[FOG35]

Yeh saw one installed on an episode of Rides. They put it on a small suv which didnt have any room for it in the engine bay.

[scathing]

If engine bay space was an issue, I'd still prefer a centrifugal supercharger to a turbo that's located on the side of the car.

It'd be far more efficient, and its about as non-invasive as this turbo setup.

[2rismo]

if you want a turbo ford ute, then get a XR6T. just change the chip and put a high flow exaust on it and you'll be on your way.

What chip would that be and how do you change it?

[Quinny]

If engine bay space was an issue, I'd still prefer a centrifugal supercharger to a turbo that's located on the side of the car.

It'd be far more efficient, and its about as non-invasive as this turbo setup.

Turbos are far more efficient than a centrifugal supercharger. The supercharger is almost exactly the same design as a turbo, but is belt driven rather than using the exhaust gasses to spin the blades. A supercharger draws power from the engine via the belt, meaning that it is less efficient. Turbocharging is by far the most efficient form of forced induction.

To give you an idea, one guy I know of was running a 355ci V8 with a Vortech blower running 8 psi, it made 420rwhp. He has now changed to turbo (GT4088 from memory), and it makes the same horsepower on 4psi, and makes well over 500 on 8psi.

Also, the supercharger is worse for space than a turbo as well, particularly when you are after big hp. Some centrifugal blowers are over 13" in diameter, imagine trying to install that in your engine bay.

[scathing]

Turbos are far more efficient than a centrifugal supercharger. The supercharger is almost exactly the same design as a turbo, but is belt driven rather than using the exhaust gasses to spin the blades. A supercharger draws power from the engine via the belt, meaning that it is less efficient. Turbocharging is by far the most efficient form of forced induction.

Given the context that I wrote this in, did you even bother to read how a STS Turbo kit works before replying?

The STS turbo setup would be less efficient than a centrifugal supercharger, and its not exactly designed to chase big power.

Edited July 5, 2006 by scathing

[Guest Mashrock]

not only would there be massive lag from the length of the cooler pipes etc,

on this topic.

i beleive the length of the pipes etc would be very very close if not less than the volume that a normal front mount cooler and the large pipes they seem to all have