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Hey everyone just after a bit of advice.

My brother is just about to buy a r33 4 door. He asked me is it worth paying the extra couple of grand to get series 2? I wouldnt really know because i drive a 32, so If some of you 33 drivers out there could enlighten me on some of the differences between S1 and 2 it would b much appreciated.

Cheers. Ben

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Internally......different coils to a series one. turbo has a plastc compressor wheel (series one has a metal one), both have ceramic exhaust wheel. Engine is the same and so is the gearbox etc.

Or if you mean internally as in Dash etc, the S2 has a nicer looking airbag steering wheel, dash is the same but surround is slightly different (the platic is more textured and the coin holder on the right of the steering wheel is gone).

I am sure there is some more but cant think of it all right now. I think that the S2 is worth the extra $$ for the updated front end.

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i imported a stock clean R33 series 1 5spd turbo sedan for $11500 inc on road costs.

I would expect you would pay upwards of $14K on the road for a clean series 2 5spd turbo sedan.

Can you show me a 5 speed S2 GTST thats Turbo and $14k or $15k Id will buy it today, thats about the price Im paying for my R33 GTST S2 Auto.

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Can you show me a 5 speed S2 GTST thats Turbo and $14k or $15k Id will buy it today, thats about the price Im paying for my R33 GTST S2 Auto.

Checking the jap auction sites, the price they go for would making $15K a reasonable figure for one. If you are buying locally from a yard or privately, you will pay more.

I bought mine through autoworx, cost me 260,000yen direct from the auctions. I didnt enquire about Series 2 turbo manual sedans as I didnt want one, but surely they would only be $3-4K more than a series 1.

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Hey everyone just after a bit of advice.

My brother is just about to buy a r33 4 door. He asked me is it worth paying the extra couple of grand to get series 2? I wouldnt really know because i drive a 32, so If some of you 33 drivers out there could enlighten me on some of the differences between S1 and 2 it would b much appreciated.

Cheers. Ben

Paul from Autoworx wrote a R33 Skyline buyers guide which covers how to tell the difference between a Series 1 and Series II. Its free - I think you just have to sign up to the email newsletter to get the info. Heres the link http://www.autoworx.com.au/mail.htm

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Series one is better :P

Series II has different lights and a bit of a squarer front (to tell yo uthe truth its down to personal preference but i've never been a fan of the 2)

The series II has the airbags from memory.

Tell him to buy mine Ben :blink: its not a four door but what the heck - throw on some roof racks n store the kids up there :)

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HAHA thx Lauren

he bought a car. Ended up buying off someone from here, i cant remember who though.

Its a white SII done 80,000 km, nearly dead stock besides bigger front lip and 17's. he paid $16500. Its very tidy.

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