R31Nismoid Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Is this AFM somethin that I can change myself or do I have 2 go 2 a professionsal????? I'm in VIC where should I go????? Have a look here mate. http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/in...c=13305&hl= Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dan Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Is this AFM somethin that I can change myself or do I have 2 go 2 a professionsal????? I'm in VIC where should I go????? The pin configuration is different but as long as you are handy with a soldering iron, you should be able to work it out yourself P.S. It won't work on the stock ECU, only aftermarket. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphid Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 well, off the top of my head i cannot list one honda vtec car that actually runs boost. running a map sensor from my understanding in an n/a car is no problem, but because a turbo car will reach maximum boost, usually at the latest by 5000rpm, that leaves another 2000rpm in this case, in which the map sensor will be utterly useless, and thus make tuning alot more "rough" so to speak. Just because an engine produces 369rwkw with an AFM doesnt mean the AFM isnt causing a restriction and that there is nothing wrong with the AFM as you say. Your logic is to look at the end result without a proper control (ie no AFM) which is nothing but inviable. Honda and certain toyotas run MAP. Have you driven a vtec-powered car? Youre always the first to say if its not needed than dont buy it. Well what about this case? The afm isnt needed and unless youre a track racer where a split second counts the AFM isnt needed at all. He can save himself money on not buying an AFM. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob123456 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 The pin configuration is different but as long as you are handy with a soldering iron, you should be able to work it out yourselfP.S. It won't work on the stock ECU, only aftermarket. what kind of aftermarket ECU should I be looking at??? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aphid Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) apexi power FC will do the job fine, I have one for sale, if you're interested give me a pm Edited August 20, 2006 by aphid Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
180bfj20det Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Totally agree with everything below though I think the wolf is about the 1100 mark (that said it doesnt compare to the pfc and i would never recommend it even though i have one). My bad regarding cost and AFM + CPU. My tuner has expirience with both MAF and MAP applications for the RB's.If he tells me in his expertise that the AFM is not a restriction, then i'll believe him based on his testing and applications. I trusted his judgement and made more power than anyone else said was possible at the time. When a PowerFC is $900, and the AFM $250-$300 thats $1200. Would i be right in saying a MAP based ECU is a little more expensive in most cases? The closest that comes to mind is $1400 at the very least. I think more decent are wire-in at a $2000+ cost So cost for cost, the AFM + PowerFC Combo will works out cheaper. As stated he is in Vic, and *most* tuners will prefer to use a PowerFC down here as opposed to anything else. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 aphid is spot on pressure != volume on an n/a car anything on the intake is a restriction so they need as little crap in the way as possible. on a turbocharged car this is not true as restrictions lie after the compressor outlet. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob123456 Posted August 20, 2006 Author Share Posted August 20, 2006 (edited) CHANGE OF SUBJECT!!!!!!!! gonna put a new full exaust on my r33 97". What is the meximum db can it be before I cop fine from the coppers??? Edited August 20, 2006 by rob123456 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
180bfj20det Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 CHANGE OF SUBJECT!!!!!!!! gonna put a new full exaust on my r33 97". What is the meximum db can it be before I cop fine from the coppers??? Infinate....with an exhaust valve Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dan Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 CHANGE OF SUBJECT!!!!!!!! gonna put a new full exaust on my r33 97". What is the meximum db can it be before I cop fine from the coppers??? 90 decibels in QLD, should be about the same in NSW and VIC Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolls Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Dont forget to factor in some decent tyres and maybe rims so you can actually use that power. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2423870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob123456 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) Hello everyone..... I was flicking through a "high performance imports magazine" and I saw an ad for a high performance engine rebuild kit for a RB25-DET. It consists of: Venolia forged pistons Grant chrome rings R.E.V. I-Beam forged conrods Tomei metal head gasket Genuine Nissan full engine gasket kit All of this is for $3999 Is all of this stuff at a good price or not??????? cheers Edited August 21, 2006 by rob123456 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr33 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 sounds expensive Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why do you need a rebuild? 2 days ago you wanted 250rwkw on a budget, now you want a full rebuild aswell? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob123456 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why do you need a rebuild?2 days ago you wanted 250rwkw on a budget, now you want a full rebuild aswell? POWERBALL -- Won a fair bit of money Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 So what are the new goals then? New budget? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob123456 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) So what are the new goals then?New budget? This time I now want 2 achieve around 250rwkw - 300rwkw. Money isn't a really big issue but I would like 2 know the most cost efficient way????? Question: Will I have 2 change my standard turbo in order 2 do this??? If so then what would you recomend????? I was thinking of buying a HKS GT2530 what do you think???? Cheers Edited August 21, 2006 by rob123456 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 im merging the threads, they are still the same then Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob123456 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) im merging the threads, they are still the same then i'm sorry massive type error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! before I wanted 2 acheieve around 200rwkw now i would like to achieve 250 - 300rwkw sozzzzz Edited August 21, 2006 by rob123456 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R31Nismoid Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 This thread is about 250-300rwkw Thats what you said in your first post Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/131032-how-2-get-250kw-300kw-at-the-wheels-with-a-r33-gts25-t/page/3/#findComment-2426573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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