ryukaza Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi all I have been looking at some R34 GTT and some people have been telling me that its hard to pull out power from this car, I was wondering for those who have R34 whether this is true. I would gather that the car is slightly heavier than a R33 GTST, but what do guyz reckon Thanks in Advance Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33silverS2 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I dont see how it would be any different than extracting more power from a 33. The 34 gtt has a slightly bigger cooler and slightly less restrictive exhaust, hence doing a cooler and exhuast to it will reap slightly less results than in a 33 gtst. But then again you have more power and torque to begin with... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2641798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n15m0 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Hi all I have been looking at some R34 GTT and some people have been telling me that its hard to pull out power from this car, I was wondering for those who have R34 whether this is true. I would gather that the car is slightly heavier than a R33 GTST, but what do guyz reckon Thanks in Advance Those ppl that are telling u this...have any of the driven or owned a 34 gtt? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2641805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Try telling abo_bob or satanic that it's hard making power for a 34. Some stock 34's make more at the wheels than some lightly modified 33's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2642068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
666DAN Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 5K will see very good power out of an R34 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2642670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS8_Gohan Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 I was wondering for those who have R34 whether this is true. False. end of thread. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2642678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsm034 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 i was told by a 33 owner at dyno day my 34 was putting out the same power as his 33. we had the same mods ,the only difference was he had a power fc and i didn't. i was also hitting r & r. all depends on how much money you throw at it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo_God Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 id be hard pressed to compete with a 34 with the same mods, they pump out more kw stock the the 33 easy, better starting platform. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satanic Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 $4200 and you will have around 230-250rwkw FMIC $400 (any cheapy copy) Turbo Back Exhaust $1000 Slide Turbo $900 Power FC $1000 EBC $400 Fuel Pump $200 FPR $200 Pod Air Filter $100 * Above prices are rough estimates; obviously prices fluctuate and change depending on when you get it and what you get. It's not hard to draw power from the R34GTT; most of the members here have done the pioneering "research" into what works and what doesn't so all you have to do is read and fork out the cash. NOTE: * Auto R34GTTs are a complete headache to modify; I've spent a tonne of hours and dollars going around in circles trying to make things work (yes, one of the pioneers here). So even though you might save a few thousand on the cost of the car; you definitely won't keep that in your wallet for long once you start modifying * Manual R34GTT; just follow the conventional methods of modification to any turbocharged car (except for the Cam gears, they do nothing) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satanic Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Forgot to say the above cost doesn't include labour and tuning costs so add on approximately $2k. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 NOTE:* Auto R34GTTs are a complete headache to modify; I've spent a tonne of hours and dollars going around in circles trying to make things work (yes, one of the pioneers here). So even though you might save a few thousand on the cost of the car; you definitely won't keep that in your wallet for long once you start modifying Just wondering stan.. besides not being able to run a PowerFC on an auto GTT - why is it so difficult? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34NRG Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Hi all I have been looking at some R34 GTT and some people have been telling me that its hard to pull out power from this car, I was wondering for those who have R34 whether this is true. I would gather that the car is slightly heavier than a R33 GTST, but what do guyz reckon Thanks in Advance lol mate were they wogs driving VLs? theres so many members on here who have turned their stock 34 into a monster with some simple mods.... 34s aint JUST a bigger cooler and a less restrictive exhuast....the engine....compared to a r33 is also better. being a new NEO version of the RB25DET it has alot more advantages over the 33. aside from all that im sure theres also alot more i watched a import mag dvd where it showed a r34 gtt being dynoed and it gained an extra 10kws from a turbo back exhaust. increasing the boost to .85 bar gave the rear wheels 200kws i dunno maybe dats jsut me but i think dats pretty easy. Edited November 6, 2006 by anDru Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satanic Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Just wondering stan.. besides not being able to run a PowerFC on an auto GTT - why is it so difficult? Well you answered your own question didn't you Howie 1) It's auto, weak gearbox that will blow up on you if you don't do something about it. 2) The auto zaps a fair amount of power from what you are making and 3) the auto ECU is both a masterpiece and a freak of programming nature. Sure you can stick with your SAFCs etc but soon you'll realize it just isn't enough. 3 options: 1) HKS F-CON V Pro, 2) PowerPlay Rom Tune and 3) Greddy E-Manage Systems theres so many members on here who have turned their stock 34 into a monster with some simple mods....34s aint JUST a bigger cooler and a less restrictive exhuast....the engine....compared to a r33 is also better. being a new NEO version of the RB25DET it has alot more advantages over the 33. aside from all that im sure theres also alot simple R34GTT also has a bigger turbo - most of you have forgotten this one which is the main reason for the power difference. Other things different; the brakes, the suspension, the HICAS system, electronics, NCVS etc etc. Companies don't release a new variant of a car to make it take steps backwards; they release them to show what new and IMPROVED things they've done to it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howie Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks stan that's what i pretty much though as well. So say i'm just chasing 200rwkw i'd be alright with the tiptronic? I just like the auto cuz i'm a lazy bugger these days Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34NRG Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Companies don't release a new variant of a car to make it take steps backwards; they release them to show what new and IMPROVED things they've done to it. i dunno man....ive been hearing alot about mitsubishi and their evos....... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
satanic Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks stan that's what i pretty much though as well. So say i'm just chasing 200rwkw i'd be alright with the tiptronic? I just like the auto cuz i'm a lazy bugger these days You'll be fine i dunno man....ive been hearing alot about mitsubishi and their evos....... Try telling that to the race team accross the road from us... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2645211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixel8r Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 i was told by a 33 owner at dyno day my 34 was putting out the same power as his 33. we had the same mods ,the only difference was he had a power fc and i didn't. i was also hitting r & r. all depends on how much money you throw at it. him having a powerfc and yours not having one (and hitting r&r) is a pretty big difference in my opinion. If you put a powerfc on yours (assuming its manual) the gap would open up a fair bit I'd imagine. Simple fact is, you can get power out of a 33 or 34. They're both very well built and can handle much more than they came out the factory with... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2646072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxtcy Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Stan what do you think you would need for 200kw out of an auto R34. I've done FMIC and piping, exhaust. What else would been needed? I'm guessing obviously EBC, pod, and a chip and tune. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2646607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33silverS2 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 34s aint JUST a bigger cooler and a less restrictive exhuast....the engine....compared to a r33 is also better. being a new NEO version of the RB25DET it has alot more advantages over the 33. I never said they were JUST a bigger cooler an exhaust, i was merely giving an example such as doing an exhaust mod on a 34 compared with a 33... Any one who thinks it would be hard to extract power from a 34 would have to be nuts Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2647118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R33silverS2 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 sorry should have quoted my top sentance ^^ Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/141792-r34-gt-t/#findComment-2647122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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