Speeding Fines In School Zones

[Shell]

Does anybody know if the fines for speeding in a school zones are more than normal fines?

[Terminal]

just depends how much over the limit you are. it's the same. 60 in a school zone is the same as 80 in a 60 zone

[Shell]

well that's good to hear, someone told me today that the fines are huge!! bastard...

he was telling me it was like $600!! because they take school zones to be more serious or some crap..

I got done for 55kms in the 40km zone... I was at the beginning and hadnt slowed right down yet.

not sure if that will be an <15 fine or a >15 fine?

[Mr Italy!]

Ohh that shit, i also have been told that school zones attract higher penalties... so your not the only one who has heard that.

I think over 15 is the next bracket up, so you should be ok - the nice cops lower you to the bracket below if its like a few K's, as you could probably take them to court to say their instruments are accurate to X km/h and give reasonable doubt to what speed you were actually doing... or something like that...

Or if you're like styles32 on the forums, you get your daddy to get you off speeding in a school zone

[StinkyPoo]

I think the first zone is 14km/h and under, so less than 15km/h.

Anyways, isn't quite clear but... http://www.rego.act.gov.au/infringements/infringedemerit.htm

Normally, unless your a asshole, and they feel like it and it's really close to a lower bracket, they'll lower you.

[GTR32GUS]

well that's good to hear, someone told me today that the fines are huge!! bastard...

he was telling me it was like $600!! because they take school zones to be more serious or some crap..

I got done for 55kms in the 40km zone... I was at the beginning and hadnt slowed right down yet.

not sure if that will be an <15 fine or a >15 fine?

It would have to be a < 15km/h fine as the cops rader is accurate to +/- 2km/h so u could have been doing 53 or 57

[Veilside R33]

Depends on how many kids you are able to take out.

[leech_]

if they try and ping you 15> write a letter... supposedly manufactures are allowed to have speedo's out by + or - 10%. you would have to get yours checked but $600 is BS

[mid life crisis]

i think speeding in a school zone should be loss of licence straight away if during school hours .when you have kids yourself you will understand .look at that poor kid sophie 2nd time hit speed driver thru school zone . gee if ya cant even slow down for kids ya dont deserve to have a car . if you got done out of school hrs i hope ya dont get much of a fine if it was during school hours i hope ya walk for 6 months

cheers have a nice day

[Munkyb0y]

shell wasnt being reckless. it's a different thing altogether.

i've caught myself doing the 'regular' speed limit, and then realising i've entered a school zone, and slowed down accordingly. if there was a cop there, he'd have booked me.

and as far as the bigger fines/points go, i was also under the impression that if you speed in a school zone, they bend you over and get the baton out no lube

so it looks like thats a common misconception, if it is infact wrong.

[GTR32GUS]

i think speeding in a school zone should be loss of licence straight away if during school hours .when you have kids yourself you will understand .look at that poor kid sophie 2nd time hit speed driver thru school zone . gee if ya cant even slow down for kids ya dont deserve to have a car . if you got done out of school hrs i hope ya dont get much of a fine if it was during school hours i hope ya walk for 6 months

cheers have a nice day

i think parents should teach there kids road safety , i never had 40 zones when i was at school i didn`t get ran over , in qbyn there is a 40 zone on a main road (Yass Rd) there is a set of traffic light which lets ppl cross there is also 2 side street which let ppl drop there kid off on a quite rd. Is this 40 zone needed???

I really hope your in Queanbeyan 1 day and get done in this school zone , i wonder if u will give your car up for 6 months

[StinkyPoo]

It would have to be a < 15km/h fine as the cops rader is accurate to +/- 2km/h so u could have been doing 53 or 57

Yeh, your right, i just looked it up.

But then I also saw this...

Mobile cameras will not be used to enforce speed restrictions in school zones or areas affected by road works.

So... did you get caught by a cop on the side of a road? or a camera? Don't cops normally just flag you down if your speeding and give you a fine on the spot?

Edited November 23, 2006 by StinkyPoo

[low200]

i dont speed through school zones on principal, the fact that i work in schools means i go through several every day and it IS annoying slowing down but i couldnt live with hitting a small kid let alone killing one

They dont attract higher fines but they do attract more attention... i see more cops in schools zones around 8-30 - 9-30 and 2-30 - 3-30 everyday then anywhere else.

[Shell]

StinkyPoo, he flagged me down and said he'd be sending the fine.

He was a nice cop, very friendly to me, so hopefully he'll do it <15

mid life crisis, for the record I go through this school zone every day and I always slow down. As I said - I was right at the beginning but didnt slow down quickly enough it seems.

The school zone is a very very long straight stretch of road with high visability on both sides, and I can tell you that even doing 55kms I would have plenty of time to stop IF there were any children around which there never is at the time I go through every day (1.45pm). It's a High School and they're all inside.

I know that's not the point but I'm just letting you know that I don't make a habit of racing through school zones for the fun of it.

[nsanity]

i think speeding in a school zone should be loss of licence straight away if during school hours .when you have kids yourself you will understand .look at that poor kid sophie 2nd time hit speed driver thru school zone . gee if ya cant even slow down for kids ya dont deserve to have a car . if you got done out of school hrs i hope ya dont get much of a fine if it was during school hours i hope ya walk for 6 months

cheers have a nice day

I'm of two minds about this.

High-School kids should know better. If you haven't learned how to cross a road by the age of 13 or so then Road education has well and truly failed.

In regards to pre-schools and primary schools, then yes, i feel that times should be similar to NSW where you only have the zones enforced during the times they are entering and leaving schools - Except in the case where they are spread over 2 sites, and students have to cross the road during the day. This all day Bullshit annoys the crap out of me - particularly for high schools.

As far as fines for the younger kids - nail them for 3-6 points and ~500+

[Terminal]

StinkyPoo, he flagged me down and said he'd be sending the fine.

Fairly certain they can't do that. they have to issue you the fine on the spot.

[Shell]

Really?? I have no idea!

He showed me the reading on the gun... went away with my licence and came back and said "yeah unfortunately being a school zone we can't be lenient" sorta like he may have let me off if was anywhere else, and then said the fine would be mailed and I'd get it soon.

[Terminal]

Maybe ACT are strange, i've never gotten a speeding find in the ACT yet, so i don't know. I didn't think they could do it in NSW, as i had mates who were threatened with fines in the mail and nothing ever came.

[Lunatikk]

Now I'm sure my response is going to anger some people, mainly parents, but before you react I ask you to remove your "parent" hat & put on your 'common-sense" hat (if you still have one- so many people in general-life seem to have misplaced theirs).

Around 6yrs ago I was working for a traffic survey company in Brisbane & was involved in collecting data from several school-zone test-sites in the lead up to the 40km/h zones being implemented. Whilst I understand the "all children are precious, we must protect them" etc train-of-thought, rather that trying to save them from themselves, isn't it much better to EDUCATE THEM instead??

Now to everyone that is going to respond with "kids will be kids, you can't blah blah blah" my response is & will always be BULLSH*T!! As GTR32GUS already said earlier, back in the day there weren't special speed-zones around schools & we all survived, because we were taught respect for the road. We KNEW that the road was for vehicles & we're taught to look 3 times (left, right, left) to make sure the way was clear & safe before crossing the road.

Sadly, & this is one of my "pet-hates", the onus of self-responsibility has been eroded in the modern-world & I believe this is to the detriment of humanity. Again this is going to sound harsh, but what we now have is "Darwinism in reverse". Instead of teaching our kids the ways of the world, we shirk our responsibilities as adults & instead look for someone, ANYONE to blame as long as it isn't ourselves.

The end-result of trying to make the world "idiot-proof" is we are creating generations of "idiots" that cannot or WILL NOT think for themselves & take responsibility for their own actions. This forces us all to exist in a world that is structured to accomodate the "lowest common denominator" & as this also leads to "idiots breeding idiots", thus it becomes a generational thing & instead of evolving, we run the risk of "devolving" as a species.

Now next time you get pulled up on an empty road for doing 6km/h over the posted limit or even worse, get a camera-infringement in the mail for similar or less of an infraction, remember my rant & maybe you'll then understand the "lowest-common-denominator" factor that influences how the world currently functions.

As sad as it must be, if a child runs out in front of a car & get's injured or killed it's not ultimately the fault of the driver, the school, the teachers, the Gov't or any of their respective dept's, IT IS THE FAULT OF YOU & YOUR CHILD, PERIOD!!!

In regards to the comment on Sophie Delezio by Mid-Life-Crisis, speed was NOT a direct cause of either of the unfortunate incidents that befell her. BOTH incidents were caused by elderly drivers that has no right to still be driving anywhere at anytime. Again it is much simpler & almost socially-acceptable to point the finger at something, ANYTHING other than the real cause because the end-result would be much more stringent testing & scrutiny of ALL drivers at ALL suppposed levels of skill & "experience". But hang-on, that would mean the same people that whinge about "hoon" this & "import" that would suddenly find themselves under the same scrutiny that we are unfortunately singled-out for way more than most (but not all) of us deserve.

Now for the record, as I'm sure someone is going to fire back at me- I am 35yo, I hold an open car licence, an open m/cycle licence, a heavy vehicle licence, have all my 12 points intact, have never lost any of my licences for any reason & probably average more km's per mth than the average driver does in a yr. That put's me on not one but THREE sub-groups that the average "driver" looks down to as a "menace-to-society" but somehow I survived & yes I do consider myself qualified to state the above comments.

So flame away, but please be constructive not just abusive........

[Shell]

haha well said

and as far as the bigger fines/points go, i was also under the impression that if you speed in a school zone, they bend you over and get the baton out no lube

so it looks like thats a common misconception, if it is infact wrong.

tony, we'll all find out v.soon... I'll make sure I post back in here and let everybody know!

I hope it's not the baton