Advise On Moding Stock Gtr

[gexenon]

Hi,

i currently have a stock R32GTR Vspec with stock everything. I've boosted the turbos by removing the restrictor and think its time for some more power.

I want the car to be a street car as i'm going to use it everyday.

At the moment, i'm thinking

exhaust (heard that the stock cat back is not bad, should i keep this?)

cat

front pipe

dump pipe

Power FC

Clutch

Mild tune

What parts and where do you guys recommend? and also is there anything i'm missing from this list?

I want to make sure the car doesn't suffer from drivability or the stock look.

Any help would be great

[mega-power]

Throw the power fc in the bin, speak to Dr.Drift he can tune the standard computer and achieve the same results

[shanef]

rip the motor out, buy urself an RB30 bottom end and start the fun

[gexenon]

rip the motor out, buy urself an RB30 bottom end and start the fun

can we have some serious replays

[shanef]

can we have some serious replays

that was a serious reply. u didnt say u didnt want to touch the internals, and it being a 32 and old and u want to make more power from it, it's going to spin a bearing in the future, its a given.

but if u dont want to touch the internals id suggest the following:

exhaust - 3" cat back, hi-flow cat, trust extension front pipes

boost controller - blitz ID3 (run 15psi)

power FC

fuel pump - dpends how much power u want, bosch 040 or 044

injectors - depends how much power u want, sard 600's or the like

suspension - sk's group buy

brakes - new rotors & pads (DBA 4000 with ferodo ds2500 fronts and racebrakes rbf74 rear)

oil cooler - one of those $340 from performancewise on here

clutch - Jim Berry full monty

Turbo's - depends on what condition the stocko's are like on ur car, i've got a set of R34 turbo's for sale, they're in great nic and u can pump an easy 16psi through them

theres an easy 10k once its all installed, but u'll have a nice all round gtr

[gexenon]

Don't have 10k unfortunaly

Anyway,

if i were to go the

3" cat back \

cat

trust extension front pipes

power fc

jim berry clutch

whoud i be needing any others on the list like fuel pump and injectors?

don't want crazy power

Any roughly how much are each parts + how long to fit and tune.

that was a serious reply. u didnt say u didnt want to touch the internals, and it being a 32 and old and u want to make more power from it, it's going to spin a bearing in the future, its a given.

but if u dont want to touch the internals id suggest the following:

exhaust - 3" cat back, hi-flow cat, trust extension front pipes

boost controller - blitz ID3 (run 15psi)

power FC

fuel pump - dpends how much power u want, bosch 040 or 044

injectors - depends how much power u want, sard 600's or the like

suspension - sk's group buy

brakes - new rotors & pads (DBA 4000 with ferodo ds2500 fronts and racebrakes rbf74 rear)

oil cooler - one of those $340 from performancewise on here

clutch - Jim Berry full monty

Turbo's - depends on what condition the stocko's are like on ur car, i've got a set of R34 turbo's for sale, they're in great nic and u can pump an easy 16psi through them

theres an easy 10k once its all installed, but u'll have a nice all round gtr

[shanef]

Don't have 10k unfortunaly

Anyway,

if i were to go the

3" cat back \

cat

trust extension front pipes

power fc

jim berry clutch

whoud i be needing any others on the list like fuel pump and injectors?

don't want crazy power

Any roughly how much are each parts + how long to fit and tune.

Prices take from www.nengun.com -

cat back exhaust - $790

cat - catco cat ~$400

trust extension front pipes - $1000

power fc - $960 from the group buy (add another $500 for tuning)

jim's clutch - $1300

springs & shocks from SK - $1400 (i think)

as u can see it adds up quite quickly

P.S thats just the parts, if u cant fit them urself u'd be forking out alot more in labour. I do all the labour myself, except for tuning (of course)

[gexenon]

what type of clutch is that?

[shanef]

its a 5puk single plate. clutch pads are carbotic, have the choice of either solid centre or sprung, and pressure plate clamp to suit ur application

[ceedub]

Throw the power fc in the bin, speak to Dr.Drift he can tune the standard computer and achieve the same results

Yep, power fc is a waste of money on an R32 - talk to Dr Drift.

Doing the same to mine in the new year.

[R31Nismoid]

ECU is totally depends on who he chooses to tune the car

Not the other way around

[Cubes]

Whats Dr. Drift Charge for an initial tune?

Whats he then charge for subsequent tunes?

I did the sums a while back and after a couple of tunes the PFC came out ahead. BUT this was only so as to touch up a pfc the tune its ~1hrs work so ~$100 for subsequent tunes.

The initial tune is ~300.

The PFC does have the VERY useful knock warning dash light flash.. This is very valuable, I've dropped a tank of Mobil 98 stuff in where I swear the bloke must have stuffed up and dropped ULP in.. First boot it knocked like buggery, dash light flashed and I jumped off it. Dialed 6degree's and no more knock.

Another tank went in dialed back in that 6degree's and all was good again.

Oh but the Stock ecu detects knock and drops back to the low octane map you say... yes true but only if rev's are under 4000-4500rpm over that and you have NO protection.

Back to back with the stock ecu and the PFC; the pfc felt smoother. Can't quite put my finger on it but it definitely felt smoother.

The PFC also got rid of my occasional idle hunt issue the stock ecu had.

[arep3]

personally id go the power fc. a lot more can be done with them then the stock.

for a daily driven look at doin some maintainence work. are you over the 100,000k mark yet? oil pump water pump. look at cooling lines. boring stuff i know but power is useless if the car doesnt run.

for power mods i reckon the intake and exhaust.

a good panel filter or pods with a CAI box.

dumps front pipes catback and even a cat.

power fc

suspension

[paulr33]

agreed

why be locked into only tuners who do remapping?

with the powerfc you can choose your tuner

get configurable engine flash light control (inj, afm, knock)

and the user has full control + view in real time of whats going on

i see no reasons/advantages to go for a remap

[arep3]

i agree with paul. theres just too many extras that come with a power fc over the stock ecu. well worth doing

[Mr. Keets]

"...

exhaust - 3" cat back, hi-flow cat, trust extension front pipes

boost controller - blitz ID3 (run 15psi)

power FC

fuel pump - dpends how much power u want, bosch 040 or 044

injectors - depends how much power u want, sard 600's or the like

suspension - sk's group buy

brakes - new rotors & pads (DBA 4000 with ferodo ds2500 fronts and racebrakes rbf74 rear)

oil cooler - one of those $340 from performancewise on here

clutch - Jim Berry full monty

Turbo's - depends on what condition the stocko's are like on ur car, i've got a set of R34 turbo's for sale, they're in great nic and u can pump an easy 16psi through them

theres an easy 10k once its all installed, but u'll have a nice all round gtr

yeah thats the stuff...change turbs but that depends on your HP target maybe go some garrett 2860R-5/2530's

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3" cat back \

cat

trust extension front pipes

power fc

jim berry clutch

whoud i be needing any others on the list like fuel pump and injectors?..."

Add some adjustable cam gears for tuning it in...cheap way of making the most of what your getting. Definately get the EBC and add some pods, I'd change the fuel pump for security and a bit of headroom. Throw in some bigger injectors and your away. Check the RB dyno thread. I have the SK GB suspension dealy a couple of extras and it is worth the investment

[gexenon]

i'm pretty set on getting a pfc, don't think remapping the stock ecu is the best option. Its just not flexible.

its just over the 100,000K mark, i've done the service and replaced the water pump. The car is in excellent condition.

Not chasing huge power, 230-250 rwkw would be heaps

is it really worth $1000 for the dumps and front pipe? If it doesn't give heaps more power but adds excellent response, i'll look into it.

[Mr. Keets]

It all helps....more flow. the Trust combo front/dump have a good rep. Tell me its had it timing belt changed

[arep3]

i got the trust dumps front pipe. u shoulda seen the look on my face when i saw the size of them! well worth the money. u can pick them up from autobarn for around the same price as nengun and if ur lucky they will be in stock in the warehouse. that way u get them way quicker then from japan.

(sorry bout the pic size)

[psybic]

If you don't have 10k and don't want to rebuild, I'd be changing the turbo's now before they let go and destroy things. I'd also be thinking about upgrading the radiator and having the cooling system flushed.

You have a very old car there which would have seen a little more spirited driving than other cars the same age.

- Rebuilt or upgraded turbos

- cooling

- replace all really old bits that look like they need replacing. hoses, cv boost, etc.

that should give you some clever things to spend you money on for a while.