Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

Hi Guys,

I'm wondering if anyone has any good recommendations as a tow vehicle to tow a car that weighs about 1500 kgs and will occasionally be used to tow a car that weighs about 1650kg. I'm looking for something not more than 10 years old. I was thinking of an AU Ford because it has a 4.0L six and it is very torquey and has a 2300kg towing capacity. I was told by a mechanic that the gearbox can't cope with heavy towwing though. Anyone had any experience towing with these cars?

If not does anyone else have any other suggestions?

thanks,

Omar

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/152531-best-tow-vehicle/
Share on other sites

  • Replies 45
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Hi Guys,

I'm wondering if anyone has any good recommendations as a tow vehicle to tow a car that weighs about 1500 kgs and will occasionally be used to tow a car that weighs about 1650kg. I'm looking for something not more than 10 years old. I was thinking of an AU Ford because it has a 4.0L six and it is very torquey and has a 2300kg towing capacity. I was told by a mechanic that the gearbox can't cope with heavy towwing though. Anyone had any experience towing with these cars?

If not does anyone else have any other suggestions?

thanks,

Omar

You will find turbo diesel 4W Drives are the best for towing but they weigh much more than 1500kg .

Your mecahnic would be semi correct.

The problem with the AU falcons, is the gearbox overheats even under normal driving.

If you do an oil change on most autos, usually, the oil will be a dark brown even after quite a few ks. On the AU falcons, the box oil is always pitch black.

Just because the oil is black doesn't mean that it's bad for a tow car. I mean honestly, how often do you plan on towing the car?

They are a very powerful, torquey tow car (not as much as a diesel), but for a petrol sedan, that's about as good as you can get.

I use it to tow my boat, probably every weekend during summer. It goes fine.

If you're worried, add a tranny cooler

VQ-VS stato

Any old V8 ute

85' onwards Patrols and Landcruisers

Basically more torque the better... Large capacity is what you want. Turbo diesels are good... If you are on a tight budget there are people using VN-VP commodores without too much hassle.

Trailer design plays a big part as there can be 100's of kg's weight difference between 2 trailers that do the same job. Also it is ideal to have 80kg of downward pressure on the tow ball when the trailer is fully laiden.

tranny cooler could be done cheap as with some ingenuity..

Thanks for all the opinions guys, I have thought about the diesel 4x4 option but to stay around my $10k budget I would have to be looking at a fairly old vehicle or one with very high kms. Also I think the ford would be comfortable than a 4x4 on longer trips.

Would a transmission cooler ensure the Ford Gearbox a long and healthy life? I've also considered a Lexus LS400/Toyota Celsior. Has anyone had any experience towing with these? I hear there not that torquey for a V8.

hey you can pick up Holden Jackaroo's late 95-96 for around 9k. Both the Petrol 3.2lt and diesel 3.0lt intercooled turbo are great for towing, We have the v6 version, tows great. just a little heavy on fuel, but it is also 4wd and plenty of space for other shit. Easiest 4wd to drive also, for the size!

i'd say something like an old V8. my father-in-law used to tow his caravan to wintersun every year with a VB commodore with a stock 253 in it, and it towed it better than his EA falcon.

although a late model car will tow better than an early falcon. we towed a silvia back from brissy with an auto vt commodore (v6 with over 200,000ks on the clock) and it towed fine, so i'd say an au falcon would be fine. just stick on a good tranny cooler.

but idealy a turbo diesel would be best.

Mitsubishi Delica Spacegear

2.8 Intercooled turbo engine - Plenty of tourqe and also easy on fuel..

Inside so roomy you can get lost in there

Jap Spec - Exeed version - lot of toys - dual sun roof, A/c , rotating reclining seats...bla bla

Low Km Jap imports compared to aussie vehicles for about 10K - 11K Limit

ohh..its a 4*4 - Dhakar Rally winning Mitsu Tech....from the pajero...

AU gearboxes have issues... as mentioned previously.

We had a 92 EB series 2 XR8 manual that we used to tow the boat.... Handled it no worries - cheap car to buy and plenty of grunt. Sold ours for $3K - it needed a respray as do most old red cars! Can pick up a good quality one for under $5K.

Just from my own experience of fitting towbars for a few years, all of the above mentioned vehicles would be fine for towing. Although, Ford has always been rated as a better tow vehicle to holden... much better pulling strentgh. As mentioned, a diesel 4 wheel drive would be an excellent tow vehicle, but may not be in your price range.

AU gearboxes were known to have heat issues with heavy duty towing - this would be the likes of large live-in caravans and large horse floats.

Many towbar fitters would fit transmission coolers when fitting towbars to these vehicles, and this would resolve this issue very easily and cheaply.

Therefore, towing a car and car trailer behind an AU falcon would not be a problem, with a transmission cooler fitted as a precaution.

This is just an opinion.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Well, all the best with the new camry It was interesting to hear about the UK process, it is generally a lot more streamlined here with a shipping agent looking after all the import side (noting the exact final price can still be a surprise.....) and I've used a few different brokers on the japan (or US) side, and never had any trouble with any of them....luck of the draw I guess. You mentioned you didn't get the auction sheet (understandable since you bought it from a dealer, not auction), but I always try and get hold of that because they are pretty thorough. I've imported 2x R grade vehicles over the years and both were fine, repairs in Japan are pretty thorough compared to here in Oz.
    • BTW I measured the jack I have, it is 70mm at the saddle but you only have about 700 until it returns to 150mm high at the cylinder so it is good but no magic bullet.
    • My experience with Rising Sun Exports Before agreeing to the sale I tried to do as much research as I could (obviously), his Facebook reviews are 98% and he goes Live at least once or twice a week. I contacted 2 people in the UK who had used him for their imports, both had positive feedback. His explanation and talk through of the import process was thorough, answering any query no matter how stupid it was. It felt as soon as the money was sent, communication dropped off. I asked for shipping updates every 2 weeks or so, not wanting to pester him, he never had any updates. I wasn't informed the car had been dropped off at the port, I only found out by his Facebook story. I asked for the photos taken at the port, knowing he would need some for insurance purposes. I received a few 5 second clips and that's it. When asked again, he said his staff had them. Weeks later I asked again, he tells me he doesn't have any, but does have 50 photos from the original advert. I never received them. I eventually got the documents sent via WhatsApp after I mentioned the port was requesting them. I purchased a CarVX report, to find out the vehicle is a Grade R with recorded accident damage, first recorded in 2017 when it was first auctioned. He never told me the grade, then again I didn't ask. His response was "Grade R means nothing, it wasn't chassis damage". Still, I would have liked to have been informed about it. Jon prides himself on being open and honest when it comes to inspecting cars, it's his main job doing so at the auctions for customers. When the vehicle arrived in the UK I noticed a few little cosmetic issues. It's a 21 year old car so it wasn't going to be mint condition. The side skirts are cracked on each corner and the sealant is failing. The front grill on the bonnet/hood isn't secured very well, mounting studs are missing. Both minor things, but again, it would have been nice to be told. During a Facebook Live walk around video of the vehicle, he mentioned it has a front Whiteline anti roll bar/sway bar. While on the inspection ramp, I noticed the stock item has been installed. When first questioned, his response was "the ARB? Switched? Since when, it never had them". Since sending video and photo evidence I've not received a response. I'm probably being over critical of the overall condition of an old car, but all I wanted was honesty (which he claims to have). I'm aware I wasn't his only customer, he's busy doing XYZ but other reviews praise him for great communication with regular updates and photos, I felt I didn't receive the same treatment. 
    • I was able to get some underside photos while the car was on the ramp The suspension is all Altezza/IS200/IS300 so getting part's will hopefully be less of a headache
    • Welcome to my 2004 Toyota Mark ii IR-V Fortuna (series 2) With a 1JZ-GTE powerplant under the bonnet (hood) it'll give me plenty of scope for power upgrades. For those who aren't familiar with imports, the 1JZ-GTE is a 2.5L 6 cylinder VVTi engine with a single turbocharger. This has the factory R154 5 speed gearbox, along with a aftermarket 2 way LSD differential (brand unknown). Under the arches are a set of CST Zero 1 alloys, 18x9 +30 225/40 up front and 18x9.5 +15 265/35 on the rear. The car was quite low in Japan and there's evidence of the wheels catching the rolled arches/fenders. The tyre's aren't great so I'm in two minds whether to replace both or just the tyres and put up with the wider wheels on the rear. The car still uses stock brakes with the addition of some braided hoses. The exterior is stock with the exception of a BN Sports front bumper and a replacement Fortuna grill  Moving to the interior, the steering wheel has been replaced with a dished MOMO steering wheel (which will get swapped for my Momo Tuner for the time being) Defi Link Gauges are mounted above the climate controls and on the A pillar, the Oil Temp,Oil Pressure,Water Temp and Boost gauges should help with spirited and track driving  The stock seats have been replaced with some retrimmed Recaro bucket seats. Being a larger build these are a little snug, unfortunately the orange isn't for me so I'll look into replacing these down the line. Other modifications include a twin plate clutch, Blitz intercooler, Evolve alloy radiator, a stainless exhaust with decat, HKS EVC-S boost controller and coil overs
×
×
  • Create New...