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[predator]

From The Age: http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/...1987737906.html

Brumby denies motorists unfairly targeted

May 7 2003

Victorian Treasurer John Brumby today denied motorists were being unfairly targeted in yesterday's state budget, which saw the increase of hundreds of government fees and fines.

He said drivers' licences would only increase by 40 cents a year, and car registration fees were still low in real terms.

"Even after these increases, motor registration and drivers' fees will still be the lowest in Australia," Mr Brumby told radio station 3AW.

He said indexation of speeding fines would also be deferred until July next year, as they had increased recently and there were more speed cameras on the road.

Mr Brumby said the decision to index fees and fines to inflation for the first time was about "smoothing" the increase over time.

"They are not going up in real terms, they are being maintained in real terms," he said.

Mr Brumby said the change would only raise an extra $8 million in the first year.

Fees for drivers' licences, boat registrations, name changes, and birth, death and marriage certificates will all rise under the change.

- AAP

Indexing fines every ****ing year??!!! It will "ONLY raise an extra $8 million in the first year"??!!!! Now I'm angry...

Well i know who I WON'T be voting for next election for this and the SOLE reason. Even though I don't have much faith any other party will do differently...I urge you all to consider the same come election time as vote the revenue raisers OUT and back to hell.

[HOTR33]

Hmm.. I totally agree with you.. it's all bullshit to give the men in power longer vacations and bigger homes..

But in the end.. everyone on this forum COULD vote them out.. but in the end.. I bet you a speeding fine a a parking infringement, they stay in

It's a conspiracy I tells ya!!

[mash]

I agree, they have found a way to make money. No party will stop it now.

[R31Nismoid]

ONLY 8 MILLION????

i'd like to see some of that 8 million spent on the sh*t quality of roads... or more public transport... rather than their fat super accounts.

and what aobut the second year... it'll probably be another 5-6 million.

[Jamezilla]

Originally posted by R31Nismoid

i'd like to see some of that 8 million spent on the sh*t quality of roads... or more public transport...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I bet Brax has never hit a gaping pothole in 35 series tyres before. Ouchy.

Would really like to see Government cars abolished after all this. They want the road users to pay - that's fine - as long as that includes themselves.

[Guest RedLineGTR]

sick of all the money we are giving. The people should vote for what the money is used for, all this money they state they have after the whole year, then half if it is missing when it comes time to use it, i wonder where it goes *shoves notes in pockets*

[rofocale]

More from The Age...

"Budget estimates papers forecast that police will issue 2.25 million fines next financial year, up from 1.72 million this year. CityLink is forecast to issue a further 500,000 fines next financial year."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/...1987702801.html

"Total revenue from fines is expected to jump $101 million next financial year, with the bulk of the money due to traffic offences."

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/05/...1987702906.html

They were telling me 5km/hr makes a big difference in so many ways. I recon this is one of them.

[chopobo]

Obviously Mr John Brumby is a dumb stupid (unt and obviously doesn't drive a car

why da **** does this shit have to get more expensive

its expensive as it is already.

if the public transport system was actually any good as an alternative then it would be within reason

but fark...some people in parliament need a good beating

[R31Nismoid]

indeed they do.

but the thing is we have to libve with it till the next election which is... 2006

Now that's the bit that sucks the most. Either way i know how i'm gonna be voting.

[Zdenko]

i think my mates maybe resposiblebe for all of this

use know how he lives in williamstown...

welll

its al JNR24's fault

blame him

he allways did burn outs out side bracks house

so now he hates guys that drive cars for fun..esp skylines

BLAME IT ALL ON JNR

[predator]

The thing is its no longer about safety anymore, its all about the money - so anything that says otherwise is just pure horseshit.

I've still spoken to people who because of the publicity actually believe 5km/hr less IN PRACTICE (e.g. on the road, not in a testing environment) will make a difference... so the marketing angle works on some idiots. They don't realise so can fatigue, so can being older, so can driving an older car, so can the weather, so can lack of concentration - there are just so many factors. Roll toll will just stay the same as it ever has with these sorts of solutions

If they were actually serious about reducing the amount of deaths they would be more proactive with actual solutions rather than this rubbish. Its not about saving life, just making money.

*sigh*

[JNR24]

LOL!!!

Zdeno, your the one drag racing up victoria street with no exhaust on!!

And then doing handbrakeis into his driveway!!! LOL

[Zdenko]

and??

whats ur point??

ur the one driving up his drive way 3 in da morning and dumping clucth at 5,000 rpms and then sapping ur control arm on a gutter!!

[R31Nismoid]

at the two children... hay... *starts to get ideas*

Nah Gord... i agree with you there mate.

Those wipe of '5' add are all based on the standard (and most recent models) ford/holden family desgin.

I can bet my bottom dinky dollar my car pulls up quicker than one of those.

---Not that i'm saying to speed because of that.---

But if you have and older car with R/S brakes... doing even 50 in a 60 zone isn't gonna save your ass. The cops should be out there canarying the rust bucket's. Not a sky (or any performance car) becasue they have a loud exhaust.

A loud exhaust isn't gonna make the car unsafe!

[Zdenko]

i think da cops need to grow a set of balls and stop geting there thrils out of pulling a p plater or any one with a nice car ....

at one stage i had to sell my vs s pac cause i was head hunted by a certain office..

THATS RITE FISHERRR I DRIVE A SKYLINE NOW BITCH!!!!!

hahah

[Zahos]

Originally posted by predator666

The thing is its no longer about safety anymore, its all about the money - so anything that says otherwise is just pure horseshit.  

I've still spoken to people who because of the publicity actually believe 5km/hr less IN PRACTICE (e.g. on the road, not in a testing environment) will make a difference... so the marketing angle works on some idiots. They don't realise so can fatigue, so can being older, so can driving an older car, so can the weather, so can lack of concentration - there are just so many factors. Roll toll will just stay the same as it ever has with these sorts of solutions  

If they were actually serious about reducing the amount of deaths they would be more proactive with actual solutions rather than this rubbish. Its not about saving life, just making money.

*sigh*

EXACTLY!!!!!!!

I'm sick of all this crap we are fed by these rec0ckulous add campaignes, and government "initiatives" to reduce the road toll...... BULLSH1T!!!!

IMHO, I think that if they really wanted the road toll figures reduced, a new program would be introduced for obtaining a drivers license. This could EASILY be subsidised by the government with ALL THAT MONEY they make off speeding fines these days.

The course would be more detailed, and expanded over a period of a few days, just like a motorbike drivers license test. Simply testing a drivers ability to turn, indicate and reverse park is not a valid enough reason to give somebody a drivers license!!!!

They tried to avoid having to intruduce such a scheme with the campaigne they had going for learners to get more experience with their parents (which is good), but come crunch time, the current system cannot REALLY determine if the person is safe enough to be driving on the roads!!!!!

What about those overcautious people that cause accidents b/c they will just stop in the middle of the road when a situation arrises in their path, they cant deal with?

What about those morons, that cant judge their cars width, and loose the plot in a narrow side street b/c they think their cars cant fit with another coming in the oncoming direction?

I can think of hundreds of situations where a lot of drivers could possibly cause an accident b/c they have no friggin clue about driving, or b/c they are too overcautious!!!!!

Do they teach you to brake heavily in the wet? Brake whilst turning? What to do if your sh1tty VN comonwhore with $10 175 bob-jane cheapo tires starts to slide after it has rained for the first time in 4 weeks??????

I THINK NOT!!!!!!

This makes me so friggin angry, b/c we all know that road rules are changing in order to raise revenue, rather than to ensure road safety!!!!

Government workers who write these REC0CKULOUS rules and regulations claiming they are put in place to ensure road safety should be burnt at the steak!

This whole thing stinks to me! This is just as bad as the legal system in the US where people can sue each other for the most REC0CKULOUS reasons! It is corrupt, unjust, and unless we dont make a stand, they will surely think of many other ways to steal our money, whilts road safety factor remains unchanged!

pricks!

[Zdenko]

I VOTE FOR U!!!!!!!!

[R31Nismoid]

Yeah, exactly :goddam:

[JNR24]

Originally posted by Zdenko

i think da cops need to grow a set of balls and stop geting there thrils out of pulling a p plater or any one with a nice car ....

at one stage i had to sell my vs s pac cause i was head hunted by a certain office..

THATS RITE FISHERRR I DRIVE A SKYLINE NOW BITCH!!!!!

hahah

LOL ZDEN!!!

Iam going to tell fisher were you are now, !! =)

YOul be hunted again!@!

Hey il call you tonight on jew time.

[Zdenko]

ok

jew time sounds good

lol

FISHER CAN GGF il smack da old bold **** out..

sorry fishy.. i didnt mean it :-(