Skyline V Commodore; Commodore = Flames

[L3nny]

Just wondering was it anyone from here that hit the commodore that then burst into flames on Park Tce around the city, about 4-5pm today.

All OK?

[heslo]

What the? Care to explain the whole story?

[MsSkyline]

Yeah saw that on my way home from work. Commodore's bonnet all smashed in and smoke everywhere. Later on I saw a fire truck on it's way there I think.

Didn't see any damage on the white 33 though.

[Pauly33GTS-t]

lol, im guessing the skyline won... hope any1 didnt get hurt.

[R33LIN]

What the? Care to explain the whole story?

hey all

the white 33 was my mate, poor guy!

his bad luck just doesnt end.

i wasnt there though, apparently my friend was waiting in the middle of the intersection at the lights waiting for the oncoming cars to stop so he could turn right. the lights went orange and a truck booted it through the intersection. Out from behind the truck was a white SS VS Commodore driver booting it as well. as my friend turned right. "bang"

IMPACT ON HIS FRONT LEFT guard, TYRE, spun him (r33) 360 degrees around. air bag popped out and pretty much saved his life as the impact propelled him forward with his head nearly hitting the steering wheel

FUEL started leaking out of the SS, the battery in the ss Commodore shorted and create the explosion and subsequent fire.

though at this early stage the details are alil sketchy.

From all reports the SS driver admitted to my mate that he was travelling 65-70 kms in a 60 zone.

Result:

No one injured, SS written off. r33 sedan impact on left hand side. engine not affected.

just thought i would update everyone,

cheers

[Rolls]

Was it still orange when the commo came through the intersection??

[R33LIN]

Was it still orange when the commo came through the intersection??

hey mate,

sorry i really dont know if it was still orange when the commodore came through,

the cop reckons if the witness on the motorbike can definitely say that the light was orange, then they can pin the commo, but thats still a lil sketchy.

all i know is that its going to be a pricey repair bill.

cheers

[Pauly33GTS-t]

even so the commo driver already stated 65-70km/h and as ur friend was already in the intersection it is still the commos fault.

[R33LIN]

even so the commo driver already stated 65-70km/h and as ur friend was already in the intersection it is still the commos fault.

true! good point!

Again an interesting thought...

my friend overheard the conversation with the commo driver and the cop.

the commo driver told the cop that he was travelling 70 odd. the cop asked him "did you know this is a 60 zone?"

the commo driver quickly changed his story and claimed that he was only driving 65km/h. still it really depends on what the witnesses say because at the end of the day its one persons word against the other.

To make things worse my friend copped a fine as well ontop of damaged r33, not sure what the SS driver got. The ss driver has full comp insurance while my friend only had third party. The cops only write the report, i think its up to the insurace company to determine who was at fault. isnt it done by percentages??

cheers!

Edited February 3, 2007 by R33LIN

[Bl4cK32]

no its not.

Clearly a failure to give way to the right. Doesnt matter if the light was orange or not, the insurance will rape him for it...

[Madaz]

ah thats rubbiash hopefully skyline driver doesnt get bent over

truck going through on yellow you would hope noone is following

[Rolls]

ah thats rubbiash hopefully skyline driver doesnt get bent over

truck going through on yellow you would hope noone is following

Its not rubbish, hes in the wrong. How would you like it if you were going through an orange light and someone pulled in front of you? Sure he was speeding and making a mad dash, however he should have waited until there was no cars, its not like he was going so fast he couldn't see him, or the light was blatantly red. He has no defence his insurance will have to pay out.

In those situations you should be extra careful as LOTS of accidents happen that way, and a lot of people do the mad dash for the orange light. A good habbit my dad taught me was if you are in that situation and going through an orange with the possibility of someone turning right in front of you is flash your high beams so they can be certain you are going through.

Edited February 3, 2007 by Rolls

[Madaz]

um sorry man yellow does not mean speed up it mean caution STOP he clearly would of had time to stop if he wasnt doing 70 and though Ah trucks going through ill go as well

i agree the line should of waited too untill all trafic was through even if that means waiting till his light is fully red and other cars are beeping @ him, the other cars waiting for there green light can see his predigament and will wait for him to leave the intersection

all in all commo driver should cop huge find and be @ fault even if the cop takes his 2nd awnser of 65kph hes still 5kph over the limit

[Bl4cK32]

no doubt both parties are at fault, so no point arguing it

Your automatically 12% in the wrong for just being in your car on the road in the first place. No doubt everyone will cop a fine, but the actual payouts/claims will be determined by how much % each party was at fault.

My mate had same situation happen to him. He was coming thorugh an orange light, but wasnt speeding. Driver turning saw it went orange and just freaked, then turned infront of my mate, and both had a bad head on which resulted in my mate kissing the steering wheel. Wasnt my mates fault, as he wasnt speeding, but he still was deemed to be part responsible for it..

Hope no-one was seriously hurt, and everyone learnt a lesson...

[L3nny]

Your automatically 12% in the wrong for just being in your car on the road in the first place. No doubt everyone will cop a fine, but the actual payouts/claims will be determined by how much % each party was at fault.

Actually, I'd like to see where it says that in the law/regs/statutes.

I hear that alot but no one comes up with where it says that just for being on the road you are at fault for an accident. I had a friends insurance company try this on him a few years ago, in attempt to reduce his claim repayment. He couldn't find anything that stipulates that for being on the road you are immediately at fault, and after persistence they dropped the matter.

However, the R33 in this incidence looks to be in a tricky situation. I'm hoping for his sake that turns out OK.

[Bl4cK32]

It wont say that you're immediatly at fault, but you will be at fault to a certain extent for just being on the road to start with. We all know u wont be in a car crash if u dont get in a car to start with

Im sure if any insurance company chose to, they could dispute any matter, as they will always have enough money to spend on a court case than u or i would even consider.

Every case is different, so yes your friend may have been let off in the past, this case may swing in totally the other way...depends whose insurance guy has had a hard day

There probably wont be much the r33 could say other than he failed to give way.

[nisskid]

i hope the commo driver gets found at fault, only reason being he has full comp and the other guy doesnt, but apart from that he did turn in front of the other guy. In that situation i make sure everyone coming is definately not going through and is slowing down before i cross over.

[Da_Black_Wolf]

Thats right i would have waited.. no matter even if on coming traffic was beeping there horns, caz what would they do run in to you and then there at fault. But the main point is that every one survived

[nisskid]

defensive driving FTW!! lol