2.8l Stroker Kit Questions And Hks V Cam System

[Beer Baron]

if you are building a set-up like that i would suggest you find one. there are enough kicking around that people have been saving for builds etc. if you have the dough, then buy one.

[Blitz]

well I'm assuming you are in the states, but even 20K USD is a long way off building the type of car you are talking about. it's not just a matter of buying a 2.8kit, a T04Z and a V-cam and then ships ahoy matey. you will need all new pulleys, harmonic balancer, prepped N1 block, complete re-done head (try buying 24 titanium valves, double valve sprins, retainers, cams, guides and then having it put together) if you want big HP and big RPM, and you want it to last more than a few passes you will need the BEST of everything. add to that a quad plate clutch, a dog gear set (or would sir prefer hollinger sequential at $22K AUD?), then add your new intercooler (cost $2.5K AUD alone), new radiator, twin oil coolers, diff cooler, trans cooler, bearings, gaskets, engine assembley, ignition system, ecu (i'd suggest motec for this set-up), injectors, fuel system (twin pumps, surge tank, all new lines both return and feed, twin feed rail, fuel reg etc). let's do the oil control. you'll need custom dry sump set-up with at least a 4 stage pump, boot mounted tank (with warmer) and all plumbed up properly. then full custom exhaust and intake piping, since we have come this far let's make it titanium as well. now you will need some nice wheels to go with your $80K set-up and some tyres to go on them. and don't forget the rest of your car is still standard and looking like crap. so lets throw in $10K on body work (conservative), and around $5K on suspension. then leave $6K for brakes so you can actually stop. now you are going to run your 900hp GTR (or whatever car it is today) at 12,000rpm on the street, so you had better be prepared for regular check-ups and inspections. may as well lease a workshop for a year, and hire your own private mechanic as there will be a years work to do building your car for one man no problem.

$20K USD will buy you fck all on that list.

Nothing further at this time your honour

[NickR33]

hahahahaha I have probably spent half that on my shitter GTSt (and its still sh*t LOL)

2.8 stroker... now that's funny

[shanef]

ok i've been to nengun, and the total of parts (minus shipping) for the follwing came to $35 076. Now this doesnt included, gearbox, braided lines, N1 block, water pump, exhaust, engine assembly, block prepping, head building/porting and other things.

the list:-

APEXi - Power FC & Hand Controller

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32/BCNR33414-AN029AU $ 821.301

ARC - Super Micro Radiator

Nissan - Skyline BNR32 - 55mm CoreSMC55BNR3203AU $ 1,655.101

Blitz - SBC - i-D III

SBCi-D III Silver15085AU $ 480.281

HKS - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator

Universal Fuel Regulator (Adapter Not included)1407-RA015AU $ 147.781

HKS - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator

Fuel Regulator Adapter RB.SR,13B-REW engines14007-AK001AU $ 74.631

HKS - Cam Pulley - Duralumin

Nissan RB26DETT/RB25DE(T)/ All Duralum Slide, For exhaust side22004-AN002AU $ 147.141

HKS - Cam Pulley - Duralumin

Nissan RB26DETT/RB25DE(T) All Duralum / Slide, For inlet side (except for NVCS engine).22004-AN001AU $ 147.141

HKS - Camshafts - Nissan

To Suit BNR32,BCNR33,WGNC34, RB26DETT, EXHAUST 280 Degree, LIFT 10.20, STEP 2, These Cams must be installed with Upgraded Valve Springs (Item Code: 2201-RN014 ).2202-RN133AU $ 362.951

HKS - Camshafts - Nissan

To Suit BNR32,BCNR33,WGNC34, RB26DETT, INLET 280 Degree, LIFT 10.20, STEP 2, These Cams must be installed with Upgraded Valve Springs (Item Code: 2201-RN014 )2202-RN132AU $ 362.951

HKS - Fine Tune Timing Belt

Nissan RB20DET, RB25DET, RB26DETT24999-AN001AU $ 137.936

HKS - Fuel Injectors

HKS 1000cc Top Fed Injector1402-RA002AU $ 1,063.991

HKS - Fuel Rail

To Suit GTR 11.0 (After market Injectors needed)1407-RN003AU $ 275.851

HKS - GT Turbine Stainless Exhaust Manifold

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT, Flange Size GT25/SPL.R1419-RN004AU $ 2,550.271

HKS - Stroker Kit - Nissan RB26DETT - 2.8L Step 1, 2 & 3

HKS RB26DETT 2.8L STEP 3 882kW(1200ps)2104-RN006AU $ 8,944.981

HKS - Turbine - Suction Funnel

100mm Turbo Suction Funnel (Purple)1499-RA038AU $ 147.781

HKS - Turbine - T51

HKS T51R SPL BB 56T A/R 1.001401-RA145AU $ 3,383.431

HKS - V CAM System - Step 1 A & B

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT Duration IN 248, Vlave Lift 8.6mm, Valve Timing 75 -125 degrees (HKS Pistons Kit needed)2007-AN003 STEP 1 Type BAU $ 4,264.851

HKS - Valve Guide

Nissan - RB26DETT - 1 set - Phosphorus Bronze - 0.5 Oversize2299-RN002AU $ 423.631

HKS - Valve Spring

To Suit RB26DETT STEP PRO CAMSHAFT2201-RN015AU $ 413.781

JUN - Surge Tank

Nissan RB26DETT Surge Tank2015M-N005AU $ 2,539.922

Nismo - Air Flow Meter

Nismo - AFM - RB2622680-RR580AU $ 724.111

Nismo - Engine Mounts

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32,BCNR33 Kit 2 X Front 1 X Mission11200-RS580AU $ 168.461

Nismo - GT LSD - Pro

Skyline BNR32,BNCR33 RB26DETT 1.5 Way38420-RSS15-EAU $ 993.061

Power Enterprise - Triple Plate Clutch

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT 1000KG PullGTRAU $ 1,956.031

Splitfire - Super Direct Di ignition system

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32 - RB26DETTSF-DIS-001 IN STOCKAU $ 465.932

Tomei - Air Flow Meter - Adapter

Air Flow Meter adapter194002AU $ 44.781

Tomei - Gasket Combination - Nissan RB26DETT

Nissan RB26DETT Bore 87mm Thickness 1.2mm133013AU $ 343.331

Tomei - Oil Gallery Orifice

Nissan Skyline BNR32, BCNR33, BNR34 RB26DETT X 1 ONLY191071AU $ 8.741

Trust - Greddy - Intercooler SPEC-R HG / SPEC-R

Nissan Skyline BNR32 RB26DET 89/8-94/11 SPEC-R HG Type 25 H302/L600/W149mm 4 Layer (Radiator front)12020439 SKYLINEAU $ 1,716.171

Trust - Greddy - Oil Pan Upgrade Kit

Nissan RB26DETT Oil Pan Up Grade Kit13525900AU $ 310.14

Sub Total

AU $ 35,076.43

[Blitz]

ok i've been to nengun, and the total of parts (minus shipping) for the follwing came to $35 076. Now this doesnt included, gearbox, braided lines, N1 block, water pump, exhaust, engine assembly, block prepping, head building/porting and other things.

the list:-

APEXi - Power FC & Hand Controller

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32/BCNR33414-AN029AU $ 821.301

ARC - Super Micro Radiator

Nissan - Skyline BNR32 - 55mm CoreSMC55BNR3203AU $ 1,655.101

Blitz - SBC - i-D III

SBCi-D III Silver15085AU $ 480.281

HKS - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator

Universal Fuel Regulator (Adapter Not included)1407-RA015AU $ 147.781

HKS - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator

Fuel Regulator Adapter RB.SR,13B-REW engines14007-AK001AU $ 74.631

HKS - Cam Pulley - Duralumin

Nissan RB26DETT/RB25DE(T)/ All Duralum Slide, For exhaust side22004-AN002AU $ 147.141

HKS - Cam Pulley - Duralumin

Nissan RB26DETT/RB25DE(T) All Duralum / Slide, For inlet side (except for NVCS engine).22004-AN001AU $ 147.141

HKS - Camshafts - Nissan

To Suit BNR32,BCNR33,WGNC34, RB26DETT, EXHAUST 280 Degree, LIFT 10.20, STEP 2, These Cams must be installed with Upgraded Valve Springs (Item Code: 2201-RN014 ).2202-RN133AU $ 362.951

HKS - Camshafts - Nissan

To Suit BNR32,BCNR33,WGNC34, RB26DETT, INLET 280 Degree, LIFT 10.20, STEP 2, These Cams must be installed with Upgraded Valve Springs (Item Code: 2201-RN014 )2202-RN132AU $ 362.951

HKS - Fine Tune Timing Belt

Nissan RB20DET, RB25DET, RB26DETT24999-AN001AU $ 137.936

HKS - Fuel Injectors

HKS 1000cc Top Fed Injector1402-RA002AU $ 1,063.991

HKS - Fuel Rail

To Suit GTR 11.0 (After market Injectors needed)1407-RN003AU $ 275.851

HKS - GT Turbine Stainless Exhaust Manifold

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT, Flange Size GT25/SPL.R1419-RN004AU $ 2,550.271

HKS - Stroker Kit - Nissan RB26DETT - 2.8L Step 1, 2 & 3

HKS RB26DETT 2.8L STEP 3 882kW(1200ps)2104-RN006AU $ 8,944.981

HKS - Turbine - Suction Funnel

100mm Turbo Suction Funnel (Purple)1499-RA038AU $ 147.781

HKS - Turbine - T51

HKS T51R SPL BB 56T A/R 1.001401-RA145AU $ 3,383.431

HKS - V CAM System - Step 1 A & B

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT Duration IN 248, Vlave Lift 8.6mm, Valve Timing 75 -125 degrees (HKS Pistons Kit needed)2007-AN003 STEP 1 Type BAU $ 4,264.851

HKS - Valve Guide

Nissan - RB26DETT - 1 set - Phosphorus Bronze - 0.5 Oversize2299-RN002AU $ 423.631

HKS - Valve Spring

To Suit RB26DETT STEP PRO CAMSHAFT2201-RN015AU $ 413.781

JUN - Surge Tank

Nissan RB26DETT Surge Tank2015M-N005AU $ 2,539.922

Nismo - Air Flow Meter

Nismo - AFM - RB2622680-RR580AU $ 724.111

Nismo - Engine Mounts

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32,BCNR33 Kit 2 X Front 1 X Mission11200-RS580AU $ 168.461

Nismo - GT LSD - Pro

Skyline BNR32,BNCR33 RB26DETT 1.5 Way38420-RSS15-EAU $ 993.061

Power Enterprise - Triple Plate Clutch

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT 1000KG PullGTRAU $ 1,956.031

Splitfire - Super Direct Di ignition system

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32 - RB26DETTSF-DIS-001 IN STOCKAU $ 465.932

Tomei - Air Flow Meter - Adapter

Air Flow Meter adapter194002AU $ 44.781

Tomei - Gasket Combination - Nissan RB26DETT

Nissan RB26DETT Bore 87mm Thickness 1.2mm133013AU $ 343.331

Tomei - Oil Gallery Orifice

Nissan Skyline BNR32, BCNR33, BNR34 RB26DETT X 1 ONLY191071AU $ 8.741

Trust - Greddy - Intercooler SPEC-R HG / SPEC-R

Nissan Skyline BNR32 RB26DET 89/8-94/11 SPEC-R HG Type 25 H302/L600/W149mm 4 Layer (Radiator front)12020439 SKYLINEAU $ 1,716.171

Trust - Greddy - Oil Pan Upgrade Kit

Nissan RB26DETT Oil Pan Up Grade Kit13525900AU $ 310.14

Sub Total

AU $ 35,076.43

Do you think the above order will "sneak through" customs without tax?

[Betz]

$15-20k will get you a JUN stroker and turbo(s) and good for 600awhp (or so I'm led to believe from my tuner) far more realistic than a 1000hp+ rb as outlined in the above posts the cost skyrockets much like that dyno graph

[shanef]

Do you think the above order will "sneak through" customs without tax?

hmm maybe if it gets delivered in like 100 small pacakges?

$15-20k will get you a JUN stroker and turbo(s) and good for 600awhp (or so I'm led to believe from my tuner) far more realistic than a 1000hp+ rb as outlined in the above posts the cost skyrockets much like that dyno graph

yeah about that "dyno graph"...:

[700HP-GTR33]

i can get my son to draw me a graph and read 1500Hp@17000RPM

Also...There has been no mention of cost on fitting and extra bits and pieces you

will need..

Buy one already with HP....saves you lots of time and money

OH great list...but I think you forgot the Turbo's...or Turbo

[Gav]

ok i've been to nengun, and the total of parts (minus shipping) for the follwing came to $35 076. Now this doesnt included, gearbox, braided lines, N1 block, water pump, exhaust, engine assembly, block prepping, head building/porting and other things.

the list:-

APEXi - Power FC & Hand Controller

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32/BCNR33414-AN029AU $ 821.301

ARC - Super Micro Radiator

Nissan - Skyline BNR32 - 55mm CoreSMC55BNR3203AU $ 1,655.101

Blitz - SBC - i-D III

SBCi-D III Silver15085AU $ 480.281

HKS - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator

Universal Fuel Regulator (Adapter Not included)1407-RA015AU $ 147.781

HKS - Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator

Fuel Regulator Adapter RB.SR,13B-REW engines14007-AK001AU $ 74.631

HKS - Cam Pulley - Duralumin

Nissan RB26DETT/RB25DE(T)/ All Duralum Slide, For exhaust side22004-AN002AU $ 147.141

HKS - Cam Pulley - Duralumin

Nissan RB26DETT/RB25DE(T) All Duralum / Slide, For inlet side (except for NVCS engine).22004-AN001AU $ 147.141

HKS - Camshafts - Nissan

To Suit BNR32,BCNR33,WGNC34, RB26DETT, EXHAUST 280 Degree, LIFT 10.20, STEP 2, These Cams must be installed with Upgraded Valve Springs (Item Code: 2201-RN014 ).2202-RN133AU $ 362.951

HKS - Camshafts - Nissan

To Suit BNR32,BCNR33,WGNC34, RB26DETT, INLET 280 Degree, LIFT 10.20, STEP 2, These Cams must be installed with Upgraded Valve Springs (Item Code: 2201-RN014 )2202-RN132AU $ 362.951

HKS - Fine Tune Timing Belt

Nissan RB20DET, RB25DET, RB26DETT24999-AN001AU $ 137.936

HKS - Fuel Injectors

HKS 1000cc Top Fed Injector1402-RA002AU $ 1,063.991

HKS - Fuel Rail

To Suit GTR 11.0 (After market Injectors needed)1407-RN003AU $ 275.851

HKS - GT Turbine Stainless Exhaust Manifold

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT, Flange Size GT25/SPL.R1419-RN004AU $ 2,550.271

HKS - Stroker Kit - Nissan RB26DETT - 2.8L Step 1, 2 & 3

HKS RB26DETT 2.8L STEP 3 882kW(1200ps)2104-RN006AU $ 8,944.981

HKS - Turbine - Suction Funnel

100mm Turbo Suction Funnel (Purple)1499-RA038AU $ 147.781

HKS - Turbine - T51

HKS T51R SPL BB 56T A/R 1.001401-RA145AU $ 3,383.431

HKS - V CAM System - Step 1 A & B

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT Duration IN 248, Vlave Lift 8.6mm, Valve Timing 75 -125 degrees (HKS Pistons Kit needed)2007-AN003 STEP 1 Type BAU $ 4,264.851

HKS - Valve Guide

Nissan - RB26DETT - 1 set - Phosphorus Bronze - 0.5 Oversize2299-RN002AU $ 423.631

HKS - Valve Spring

To Suit RB26DETT STEP PRO CAMSHAFT2201-RN015AU $ 413.781

JUN - Surge Tank

Nissan RB26DETT Surge Tank2015M-N005AU $ 2,539.922

Nismo - Air Flow Meter

Nismo - AFM - RB2622680-RR580AU $ 724.111

Nismo - Engine Mounts

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32,BCNR33 Kit 2 X Front 1 X Mission11200-RS580AU $ 168.461

Nismo - GT LSD - Pro

Skyline BNR32,BNCR33 RB26DETT 1.5 Way38420-RSS15-EAU $ 993.061

Power Enterprise - Triple Plate Clutch

Nissan BNR32 RB26DETT 1000KG PullGTRAU $ 1,956.031

Splitfire - Super Direct Di ignition system

Nissan - Skyline - BNR32 - RB26DETTSF-DIS-001 IN STOCKAU $ 465.932

Tomei - Air Flow Meter - Adapter

Air Flow Meter adapter194002AU $ 44.781

Tomei - Gasket Combination - Nissan RB26DETT

Nissan RB26DETT Bore 87mm Thickness 1.2mm133013AU $ 343.331

Tomei - Oil Gallery Orifice

Nissan Skyline BNR32, BCNR33, BNR34 RB26DETT X 1 ONLY191071AU $ 8.741

Trust - Greddy - Intercooler SPEC-R HG / SPEC-R

Nissan Skyline BNR32 RB26DET 89/8-94/11 SPEC-R HG Type 25 H302/L600/W149mm 4 Layer (Radiator front)12020439 SKYLINEAU $ 1,716.171

Trust - Greddy - Oil Pan Upgrade Kit

Nissan RB26DETT Oil Pan Up Grade Kit13525900AU $ 310.14

Sub Total

AU $ 35,076.43

If anyone forwards this estimate to my wife (i.e. she learns the real cost of my build! ) I will personally hunt them down!

[shanef]

If anyone forwards this estimate to my wife (i.e. she learns the real cost of my build! ) I will personally hunt them down!

that's the email address so i dont mistake her for someone else?

[shanef]

actually i was quite supprised to see that nengun can do the hks t51r spl for 3500 delivered!

[kudos.motorsports]

If you are considering this sort of build I would highly recommend considering a OS 3L. Give me a call Mondey on (07) 5593 8135.

[NXTIME]

actually i was quite supprised to see that nengun can do the hks t51r spl for 3500 delivered!

But that is only the turbo itself. Add manifold and wastegate, dump and inlet. Possibly even oil and water lines.

That list has a lot of parts missing. Add shipping and some tax, then double the lot for an 80k+ budget.

[CruiseLiner]

jun stroker is about 9k + gst (so 10k),

n1 block 4-5k

nismo bearings $300,

jun oil pump $1200

n1 water pump $350

machining, etc $1000 (not assembly)

engine seals, core plugs and shit is like $200-300

cams $1100

head porting $2k

clutch 3k

twin 044 fuel pumps $500

intank pump $300

turbo $3k+

fuel rail $400

ecu $3-4k

bigger sump $1-2k

manifold 2k

head and main studs - ?

retainers ?

valve springs?

ati balancer $1k

exhuast

gearbox

thats a minimal list i could think of in 2 min so add about double that and u get a jun stroker setup done properly

just internals for head and bottom end, and block for mine is like 24k, thats without turbos, no ecu, no fuel system, no nuthin.

if i knew the costs i would of gone os giken 3l personally for that little bit extra

dont let anyone tell u a big build on a 26 (using stroker kit) is 10-15k because thats rubbish

[Shabib67]

Wow some of those lists are ridiculous. Haha some of those parts are not even needed. The arc radiator?? $1600.00?? thanks but no thanks a koyo radiator will do fine. The intercooler will be custom made by XS Engineering. Like i said the V-Cam would be one of the last upgrades so i really dont need that. Like ive said for the hundreth time the hks 2.8l step 3 kit IS NOT MY ONLY CHOICE hello the tomei one costs 5k and seems to be just as good. Lastly i do not want a HKS t51 turbine. If im going single turbo im getting a kit from Full-Race which comes with a twin scroll manifold so the bigger turbos like the GT40R, GT42R can spool up somewhat quicker. Also the jun surge tank rather get the Full-Race surge tank with the 102mm throttle body.

I would like to thank everyone for there time and knowledge i did learn a lot more about what it takes to make massive hp on an rb26dett. However as i said before the 350z project isnt going and if I was going to do it then i would have gone with a huge build up. My definte project is swapping the rb26dett w/rb25det into my s14. Ill just stick with the 2.6 and get aftermarket pistons and rods. Work the head. 600hp in a 2900lb rwd should be more than enough to fly on the highway and be a total sleeper. Thanks again.

p.s. saw that the prices for the nengun list where in AUD so im not sure how much that equates to the dollar.

[shanef]

Wow some of those lists are ridiculous. Haha some of those parts are not even needed. The arc radiator?? $1600.00?? thanks but no thanks a koyo radiator will do fine. The intercooler will be custom made by XS Engineering. Like i said the V-Cam would be one of the last upgrades so i really dont need that. Like ive said for the hundreth time the hks 2.8l step 3 kit IS NOT MY ONLY CHOICE hello the tomei one costs 5k and seems to be just as good. Lastly i do not want a HKS t51 turbine. If im going single turbo im getting a kit from Full-Race which comes with a twin scroll manifold so the bigger turbos like the GT40R, GT42R can spool up somewhat quicker. Also the jun surge tank rather get the Full-Race surge tank with the 102mm throttle body.

I would like to thank everyone for there time and knowledge i did learn a lot more about what it takes to make massive hp on an rb26dett. However as i said before the 350z project isnt going and if I was going to do it then i would have gone with a huge build up. My definte project is swapping the rb26dett w/rb25det into my s14. Ill just stick with the 2.6 and get aftermarket pistons and rods. Work the head. 600hp in a 2900lb rwd should be more than enough to fly on the highway and be a total sleeper. Thanks again.

p.s. saw that the prices for the nengun list where in AUD so im not sure how much that equates to the dollar.

u pay for quality