Jump to content
SAU Community

R32 gtst timing belt/ water pump

steve_R32

By steve_R32,
in General Maintenance

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 41
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Zensoku Collaborator

Zensoku

Posted
Posted

Probably a little bit off topic, but it reminded me of the time i had to remove the harmonic balancer on my old Commodore V8, and no matter what i tried (Body weight leaning on the breaker bar, hitting it with a hammer, borrowing a compressor and rattle gun) the damned bolt wouldn't come off!!!

Even after many of my friends having countless frustrating hours trying to get this crank bolt off, one of my friends after staring at the car for quite some time, came up with the idea of getting the breaker bar, putting a piece of pipe onto it's handle to make it longer and give it more leverage and placing it underneath the chassis rail, whilst i turned the key on the starter motor, and voila!!! one crank bolt loosened by the torque of the engine's own starter motor!

keep this nifty trick in mind kids, it could have saved me many hours of grief!

  • 2 years later...
eXc Mentor

eXc

Posted
Posted
belt 1302820P25 - $82.25

water pump 2101070T25 - $97.06

Can anyone confirm these are the right parts for the RB20?

When I called the Nissan dealer, they said that is the right parts, but when 2 workshops (not just one) called them, they were both told they needed a different water pump, which is worth $386?! HUGE difference. Mechanic said that he knows the RB30 and RB25 are different (the bolt hole issue others have mentioned) but he isn't sure about RB20.

Thanks

Chris

wizard2k Community Regular

wizard2k

Posted
Posted

the belt part number is the right one although mine had a diff part number on it for the one i got but it only cost $88

water pump i was also quoted $383 through nissan which i thought was crazy they must have quoted an rb26 pump or something

i done this change over last friday/sat aswell as turbo change all was reletivaly easy if you have the tools to do it

we used a steering wheel, pulley puller to get the harmonic balancer off

to undo the crank bolt put it in 5th gear and have someone stand on the brakes so the car wont move and have someone use a tention wrench to breaker bar to undo it mine came off fairly easy

total cost was $88 + carton of beer :P

The Dan Grand Master

The Dan

Posted
Posted
Searched, and not found any concrete answers......

Can some one please tell me a definate part number (genuine, and/or non- genuine) for the R32 gts-t's RB20DET timing belt, and the water pump.

I want to be sure, so I dont have to pull it apart before I buy parts..

I have heard that the water pump is the same as the RB30 locally offered motor, but then I have heard that a bolt hole doesnt line up properly..

Where can I get a timing belt from, if not only the nissan dealer.. (I'm in Adelaide, southern suburbs) Tried motortraders, repco, sprint auto..no such luck..

Surely some of you R32 gtst owners have done the belt change yourselves? Or does everyone pay someone else to do it?

Any help is appreciated!

Steve

You don't need part numbers. Just write down your VIN number and walk into your local nissan dealer. They will give you the correct part for your vehicle. The RB25 belt should be the same as the RB20 belt but genuine is the best way to go for quality on this item. The VL water pump WILL fit your vehicle.

eXc Mentor

eXc

Posted
Posted
You don't need part numbers. Just write down your VIN number and walk into your local nissan dealer. They will give you the correct part for your vehicle. The RB25 belt should be the same as the RB20 belt but genuine is the best way to go for quality on this item. The VL water pump WILL fit your vehicle.

This is the reason I have brought this topic back. The problem is the Nissan dealer told me a $120 pump is the go, but told the 2 shops I rang that $380ish pump is the go. They are obviously different pumps. Seems the Nissan dealer isn't too sure.

I will try the Rb30 pump and see what happens

Cubes Grand Master

Cubes

Posted
Posted

Go either the cheaper RB30 pump or the GTR N1 pump that has the anti-cavitation plate that increases flow and prevents cavitation at high rpm.

Thats the only difference between the pumps. From memory the R33 series 2 pumps are slightly different being one bolt hole is slightly aligned different. If thats the case then grab a repco Rb30e pump as they have provision for this.

  • 3 weeks later...
Angry Proficient

Angry

Posted
Posted

reason i asked coz i was hoping to buy all the parts need to do a timing belt, water pump, idler and tensioner and timing case seals in one visit to the garage.

no idea what numbers they are?

eXc Mentor

eXc

Posted
Posted

I can tell you that when I got mine done, mechanic used

- RB30 water pump

- Cam Belt - Whatever Nissan reccomended (it was genuine)

The seals I left up to the mechanic to chase...same with bearings. The bearings were not in stock at CBC, he ended up having to get to sydney (live in newcastle) to find someone that stocked them.

I plan to post up the part numbers, just I am never on the net at home...which is where the receipt is.

RB30-POWER Mentor

RB30-POWER

Posted
Posted

The RB30 water pump has the same bolt pattern and will bolt up. (Its the RB25 that has a different bolt and won't bolt up)

But does it have the same impeller?

If its different you may get cavatation at high rpm on RB20.

The RB30 revs to 6400rpm where as the RB20 revs to 8000rpm.

Just a thought, that the impeller may be different, haven't actually inspected a 20DET pump alongside the RB30 so i can't say.

Cubes Grand Master

Cubes

Posted
Posted

The Repco RB30 pump has provision for the RB25 S2 boltup.

With regards to cavitation.. I wouldn't worry. If you are reving to 8000rpm or anywhere over 6000-6500rpm you will be getting caviation with the stock pump anyway.

For track work where high rpm 6000-6500rpm+ is used definitely look at the rb26 N1 water pump.

A prime example is Roy's engine temp differences with those few more rev's.

I've seen my RB20 pump next to the rb30 pump. No differences, same design, same fin angle etc.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • MBS206
      Dose's Sometimes DIY and Pay Someone Home & Boat Improvement Thread

      By MBS206 · Posted

      Why are people so insistent on making dirty water?!
    • Dose Pipe Sutututu
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Dose Pipe Sutututu · Posted

      Fark what are the changes of that snapping like that, clean. Nek minnit, custom radiator goes in, with built in oil cooler like those discontinued PWR ones from yesterdeacades ago
    • Duncan
      7 Speed Auto transmission fluid change (Skyline, Q50, Q60, Fuga, Q70, A62 Titan and probably heaps of others including Navara...)

      By Duncan · Posted

      I thought I'd do a write up on an auto transmission fluid change for a the nissan 7 speed Automatic. At some stage the genius engineers decided that the fluid in the trans was "for the life of the transmission", (which seems kind of self supporting to me) and removed the dip stick and fill tube (funnily enough there is still a casting for it). Anyway, for this job you do need 2 specialist tools in addition to regular hand tools, jack and good chassis stands. You need a way to pump fluid up to the transmission; I got one of these but there are plenty of other options: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/364584087070 Don't trust the generic listing though, it does not come with the required adapter for the Nissan 7 Speed. You need one of these, can't do the job without it: https://navarapart.com.au/product/genuine-nissan-patrol-y62-d23-np300-navara-re7-dipstick-fill-connector1 You need a heap of compatible transmission oil. Could be Nissan, could be anything else rated for Nissan Matic S. You need at least 10 litres, I had 15 to give it a better flush... Also, you need some biiig oil catch trays, at least one of these, or bigger if possible (volume was fine, size was very marginal): https://autobarn.com.au/ab/Autobarn-Category/Tools-%26-Garage/Specialty-Tools/Oil-Service/Garage-Tough-Oil-Drain-Pan-Black-16L---GT1068/p/TO03191 Finally, a measuring jug is very useful if your pump does not have volumes marked on it, I got a 6l one: https://www.repco.com.au/oils-fluids/fluid-accessories/measuring-jugs/penrite-measuring-jug-6l-pmj006/p/A5322648 Oh, and gloves.....this stuff is horrible (not as bad as diff oil, but getting there) ....First, jack up your car.....
    • Duncan
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Duncan · Posted

      So I mentioned the apprentice, @LachyK helped take the bonnet off. We just undid the nuts on the hinges and unclipped the gas struts, then pulled the bonnet back a little as the front was catching on the front bar.  I had a good look at everything today and have removed the rams, repaired/reset the hinges and bolted it back together like it never happened. I'll do a separate write up on the repair, and I also removed the poppers from the Fuga today too to save grief down the road.....as said above it is at least $5k to repair retail. I'm also happier about my ability to prepare a race car, and less happy about Nis-nault's engineering (I can hear @GTSBoy sAfrican Americaning) because the top hose of the radiator didn't slip off.......it snapped clean off. By practice I put the hose clamp hard up against the flare on a neck to make it least likely to ever move (thanks @Neil!). I guess that puts a little more pressure on the end of the pipe as it is further away from the rad, but still, that is pretty shit. I've put it back on for now as there was a fair bit of neck still there, but obviously there is no lip on the neck any more so I don't think I'll track it again until I have a new rad. Speaking of which....more research required. It looks like Koyo makes a standard size radiator in ally which I'll grab in the meantime, but I really want something thicker so might have to go custom in the medium term (ouch) Coolant still needs a refill and I have the pressure tester on it over night, but other than a wash down of the engine bay it seems alright. And @MBS206 noted something noisy on the front of the engine and I think I agree....time for a new accessory belt and tensioners I think.
    • Duncan
      Duncan's V37.......race car?

      By Duncan · Posted

      our good friends at nismo make a diff for it, I have one (and a spare housing to put the centre in) on the way. https://www.nismo.co.jp/products/web_catalogue/lsd/mechanical_lsd_v37.html AMS also make a helical one, but I prefer mechanical for track use in 2wd (I do run a quaife in the front, but not rear of the R32)
×
×
  • Create New...