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Also they were saying the driver was found to be under influence???

Yeah, apparently he was on pot and booze.

But he didn't crash into a tree on the side of the road. He fell down a massive f**king hole in the middle of it. Trying to use his intoxication to defend the government's criminal negligence occasioning death is just wrong.

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Exactly.

"Oh if he wasnt under influence, he could have pulled up in time"

yeah right, they werent there, they wouldnt know that, stupid government

Hmm.....

Mr Menzies said medical toxicology evidence would later be given that would show Mr Holt, who was driving the car, had a blood alcohol level that was "marginally above the legal limit" and had ingested cannabis.

Referring to the cannabis, Mr Menzies said: "And that amount could well have had some effect on Mr Holt's capacity to stop the car before this accident occurred."

Undoubtedly it could have had some effect on his capacity to stop the car. Alcohol and cannabis are known to affect people's reactions and co-ordination.

But you know what else had an effect on Mr Holt's capacity to stop the car before the accident occurred? A massive hole in the f**king ground that didn't used to be there. If there was no hole, he would have stopped without falling into rushing water. Actually, he wouldn't have even needed to stop, and that would have removed the possibility of an accident altogether.

Paul Menzies can go f**k himself.

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