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If I was you I would do front mount first.

Becuase powerFC will cost you around $1600 (2nd hand) and then you will need $500 for tuning

And then when you get the FMIC or any other major mod you will have to spend more $$ for retuning.

So if you were to get the FMIC first the costs would be:

FMIC $2000

PowerFC $1600

Tuning $500

Total $4,100

But if you got the powerFC and then FMIC later it would cost you:

powerFC $1600

Tuning $500

FMIC $2000

Re-tuning $500

Total $4,600

See what I mean? Also you won't be able to get maximum tuning out of the powerFC because your stock cooler will be causing detonation due to high intake temps.

Hope this helps :P

Yeah, go the FMIC.

I don't yet have a PowerFC, but I've got a 3" exhaust, 600x300 fmic, front-facing plenum, and T04 450hp turbo. I've got an S-AFC to help smooth it out, but I wouldn't trade any of the above items except the S-AFC for a PowerFC.

For me, the PowerFC is in the "I would love to have one but need the $2000 for too many other things first" categories.

i would get a s-afc and a fmic 2nd hand.

then u will have the benifits of the fmic, and the s-afc to control the fuel.

only way i will be going for the power fc is if i have done all the required mods first. such as large fmic, 3'' ex, turbo upgrade, and i require a better fuel system.

but i think that if i got that fair, i prob wont have my licence to drive it...

Ditto for me, the PowerFC is one of the next things I want to get for my car, just after the dump pipe and fuel pump installation (I already have the pump).

But it won't be for a long time, insurance is due soon and then rego by the time I recover from that. I'm also thinking I'd like some form of tracking installed before any of the above.

Maybe next year.

Hi Guys, this comes up so often, speed limiter, overboost limiter and ignition timing adjustment are problems not fixed by SAFC (fuel only). If you add up all the bits you need to do the job properly, a Power FC is cheaper.

Originally posted by Sydneykid

Hi Guys, this comes up so often, speed limiter, overboost limiter and ignition timing adjustment are problems not fixed by SAFC (fuel only).  If you add up all the bits you need to do the job properly, a Power FC is cheaper.

Yes, but if you only want to smooth out the power curve and add 15-25rwkw then the S-AFC is a good half-price option. My car already came with a fuel cut defender so that made my choice even easier.

The best deal if you're short on cash is to get a S-AFC, save up for a Power FC, then sell the S-AFC to someone in your current position to recoup some of your costs.

benm,

Not over 175rwkw? I got that at just 4500rpm with afr in the 9's and no PFC or frontmount.

you want to get the front mount just before a turbo upgrade. The PFC is better bang for buck. Come to think of it, a light flywheel is better bang for buck in terms of accelleration than either. You can fit a stronger clutch while your at it. The intercooler upgrade is worthwhile once you have exhausted the cheaper mods.

I've spent a bit over $2.5k and I should get into 12's pretty easy now.

I Like Duncan's suggestion.. they are top fun. You could go do a Porsche Advanced or BMW course too for $700 + flight to Gold Coast, or even the WRX Rally course.....

But if ya not into that, then Power FC has multiple bits to make it more worthwhile. Don't go for a FMIC too early in the power (like before 180rwkw) as all it will do is increase lag...

So of S

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