Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

hey guys,

i tried checking to see if this was mentioned. I'm putting the RB26 head on my RB30. What tensioners do I use when using the two lower tensioner locations instead of drill tapping a hole near the top flat portion.

I have a gates power grip GT2 150 tooth belt, and it's pretty damn sturdy, so i'll just make a thin piece of metal that separates the two teethed sides in the case of any belt flap or what have you.

so i've noticed that nismoparts.com has two different tensioners. both RB20/25, and 26. someone told me that if i use the RB26 head, i should use the 26 tensioners, but im not sure if the stud or the construction of the tensioner is the same or if the RB30 block itself is suited to RB25 tensioners rather than 26 ones.

Let me know, i want to order everything soon :-D

NA high compression RB30DE on it's way...

Thanks dudes!

Raff

Link to comment
https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/175019-rb30-tensioner-choices/
Share on other sites

I thought they were all the same. I use the rb30 ones, but its a good idea to get genuine ones, as they are double row bearings instead of single row. You may want to use two tensioners instead of an idler/tensioner, as it will give you more tension adjustment(and save some $$$)]

I thought they were all the same. I use the rb30 ones, but its a good idea to get genuine ones, as they are double row bearings instead of single row. You may want to use two tensioners instead of an idler/tensioner, as it will give you more tension adjustment(and save some $$$)]

OK, so i'll just order two RB26 ones then, or whatever's cheaper =/

thanks Ad.

They are the same item.

Call rolling bearings with the part number (do a search on the forum for them) and use the stock NSK bearings. $120 for the pair.

I can get the Nissan OEM ones for less than that here in Canada, shipped from the US.

it will be about 100 CAD when said and done.

nismoparts.com

I didn't bother looking at nismoparts as the name nismo usually implies uberexpensive. They clearly don't have much of a clue if they are selling the items as suiting different applications. RB are all the same.

Plus, since you are OS it would help to put your location in the bit over on the left, so I don't waste time giving useless (to you) information.

Cheers

  • 3 weeks later...

I replaced my set of tensioners when I recently pulled the head off.

After 60,000km's they were pretty shagged. I was running one single row bearing type and a double row nissan type. Both were just as stuffed. Crunchy and noisy when you'd spin it.

BUT saying that; I was slack; I ran with the gap inbetween the cam belt covers. I was 'gonna' fix it. Ahh well that will teach me lol.

  • 4 weeks later...
I replaced my set of tensioners when I recently pulled the head off.

After 60,000km's they were pretty shagged. I was running one single row bearing type and a double row nissan type. Both were just as stuffed. Crunchy and noisy when you'd spin it.

BUT saying that; I was slack; I ran with the gap inbetween the cam belt covers. I was 'gonna' fix it. Ahh well that will teach me lol.

What make was the single row bearing type, and is that the difference between the RB26 and 25 versions?

which nissan part number is the double row, I can cross it in the Nissan FAST system.

Thanks cubenator!

I have since noticed the VL tensioner runs a wider and larger dia. bearing than the RB20 tensioner.

They were both NTK bearings; the RB20 had a smaller dia bearing compared to the VL tensioner; inside the VL bearing had 2 rows of ball bearings.

I have seen 2 types of rb20 tensioners; one isn't servicable and runs a narrower and smaller dia bearing the other is servicable and runs the same VL dia but a narrower bearing.

The Rb20 idlers run a smaller dia bearing but run 2 bearings side by side which in width is greater than that of the single vl tensioner bearing; but only just.

No idea on the part numbers nothing is stamped on them apart from the NTK bearing number. :P

I'll see if I can get some pics.

It appears the origional tensioners on the rb30 from factory ran the good wider bearings; the ones you buy now from holden use the narrow bearing within the tensioner which is the same as what was on the rb20 I have sitting in the shed.

So at one point some one shoved a cheap holden tensioner on it.

So I'd say the tensioners to get are the genuine origional VL ones that are servicable. or just buy from Nissan for a couple hundred lol.

I think I remember the idler from nissan was up over $200!! and the tensioner slightly under. Its been some time but they were damn expensive.

I run the 2 x origional RB30 factory tensioners with the bigger bearings. The 2 I sold recently were also the bigger bearing type. :wave:

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Update 3: Hi all It's been a while. Quite a lot of things happened in the meantime, among other things the car is (almost) back together and ready to be started again. Things that I fixed or changed: Full turbo removal, fitting back the OEM turbo oil hardlines. Had to do quite a bit of research and parts shopping to get every last piece that I need and make it work with the GT2860 turbos, but it does work and is not hard to do. Proves that the previous owner(s) just did not want to. While I was there I set the preload for the wastegates to 0,9bar to hopefully make it easier for the tuner to hit the 370hp I need for the legal inspections that will follow later on. Boost can always go up if necessary. Fitted a AN10 line from the catch can to the intake hose to make the catchcan and hopefully the cam covers a slight vacuum to have less restrictive oil returns from the head and not have mud build up as harshly in the lines and catch can. Removed the entire front interior just shy of the dashboard itself to clean up some of the absolutely horrendous wiring, (hopefully) fix the bumpy tacho and put in LED bulbs while I was there. Also put in bulbs where there was none before, like the airbag one. I also used that chance to remove the LED rpm gauge on the steering column, which was also wired in absolute horror show fashion. Moved the 4in1 Prosport gauge from sitting in front of the OEM oil pressure gauge to the center console vents, I used a 3D printed vent piece to hold that gauge there. The HKB steering wheel boss was likely on incorrectly as I sometimes noticed the indicator reset being uneven for left vs. right. In the meantime also installed an airbag delete resistor, as one should. Installed Cube Speed premium short shifter. Feels pretty nice, hope it'll work great too when I actually get to drive. Also put on a fancy Dragon Ball shift knob, cause why not. My buddy was kind enough to weld the rust hole in the back, it was basically rusted through in the lowermost corner of the passenger side trunk area where the wheel arch, trunk panel and rear quarter all meet. Obviously there is still a lot of crustiness in various areas but as long as it's not rusted out I'll just treat and isolate the corrosion and pretend it's not there. Also had to put down a new ground wire for the rear subframe as the original one was BARELY there. Probably a bit controversial depending on who you ask about this... but I ended up just covering the crack in the side of the engine block, the one above the oil feed, with JB Weld. I used a generous amount and roughed up the whole area with a Dremel before, so I hope this will hold the coolant where it should be for the foreseeable future. Did a cam cover gasket job as the half moons were a bit leaky, and there too one could see the people who worked on this car before me were absolute tools. The same half moons were probably used like 3 times without even cleaning the old RTV off. Dremeled out the inside of the flange where the turbine housing mates onto the exhaust manifolds so the diameter matches, as the OEM exhaust manifolds are even narrower than the turbine housings as we all know. Even if this doesn't do much, I had them out anyways, so can't harm. Ideally one would port-match both the turbo and the manifold to the gasket size but I really didn't feel up to disassembling the turbine housings. Wrapped turbo outlet dumps in heat wrap band. Will do the frontpipe again as well as now the oil leak which promted me to tear apart half the engine in the first place is hopefully fixed. Fitted an ATI super damper to get rid of the worn old harmonic balancer. Surely one of the easiest and most worth to do mods. But torquing that ARP bolt to spec was a bitch without being able to lock the flywheel. Did some minor adjustments in the ECU tables to change some things I didn't like, like the launch control that was ALWAYS active. Treated rusty spots and surface corrosion on places I could get to and on many spots under the car, not pretty or ideal but good enough for now. Removed the N1 rear spats and the carbon surrounding for the tailpipe to put them back on with new adhesive as the old one was lifting in many spots, not pretty. Took out the passenger rear lamp housing... what do you know. Amateur work screwed me again here as they were glued in hard and removing it took a lot of force, so I broke one of the housing bolts off. And when removing the adhesive from the chassis the paint came right off too. Thankfully all the damaged area won't be visible later, but whoever did the very limited bodywork on this car needs to have their limbs chopped off piece by piece.   Quite a list if I do say so myself, but a lot of time was spent just discovering new shit that is wrong with the car and finding a solution or parts to fix it. My last problem that I now have the headache of dealing with is that the exhaust studs on the turbo outlets are M10x1.25 threaded, but the previous owner already put on regular M10 nuts so the threads are... weird. I only found this out the hard way. So now I will just try if I can in any way fit the front pipe regardless, if not I'll have to redo the studs with the turbos installed. Lesson learned for the future: Redo ALL studs you put your hands on, especially if they are old and the previous owners were inept maniacs. Thanks for reading if you did, will update when the engine runs again. Hope nothing breaks or leaks and I can do a test drive.
    • No those pads are DBA too  but they have colors too. I look at the and imo the green "street" are the best.
    • I’m not sure what happened I told them about sonic tunes free OTS tune and the next the I know .. I was booted..   To funny 
    • Yea - I mean I've seen my fuel pump which is decades old and uh, while I'm not saying this with real knowledge... but I sure get the ick at using anything in the fuel system that produced the state of that pump. Many years ago I went through multiple pumps (and strainers) before I dropped the tank to clean it out with extreme violence. I'm talking the car would do maybe 50km before coming to a halt, which resulted in me cleaning out the filter with some brake cleaner and going on my way. None of my stuff ever looked like what came out of your fuel tank. I don't think I'd be happy with it unless every single component was replaced (or at least checked/cleaned/confirmed to be clean here).
    • I'm not going to recommend an EBC pad. I don't like them. Just about anything else would suit me better. I've been using Intima pads for a while now.
×
×
  • Create New...