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Guys, I love a good debate but time for me to step and and give a little "settle down talk". There are some good constructive opinions....and some not so constructive so for the sake of this thread lets get it back on topic and less of a personal debate ok :closedeyes:

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Pushing pretty close to offensive there son, and a personal attack. Your position as a mod does not give you the right to do either.

Your position doesnt give you any right either, but i choose not to turn a blind eye (and have done so many times) in the hope that one day you'll stop behaving like a 15yr old child.

Maybe now is that time?

Sorry Ash,

I only raised your particular case because it seemed a fair double standard to hold up to scrutiny. Nothing personal, just in the interest of debate and to establish how you, for example, could have been in such a situation, fought to keep your license and then decide he is not worthy of the same recourse. You could have just as easily given him the benefit of your experience. I've noted that others who commented negatively and that I know have had fines that they complained about have suddenly gone quiet....... Perhaps they are doing some thinking, or arming themselves with the knowledge from the website I provided to protect themselves the next time.

3. ....We are all entitled to defend our innocence in court.

LOL...but he isnt innocent. He made a mistake, sure. But there is no question of guilt or innocence here. Just the consequences of an honest mistake.

Nothing shits me more then ppl that rock up to court and are readily prepare to lie in court. If you know you have done somehting and think you can get a lighter sentence by pleading a case. GO FOR IT!.

But dont rock up to court ready to lie because you dont think they can prove otherwise. That flies in teh face of a civil society...who can tell the best lies. Meh, anyway...this thread needs a bullet :kiss:

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