Apexi Power Fc Outdated Technology?

[LatinR33]

Hey Guys just wanted your opinion. Ive been looking at some of the ECU postings and Ive been reading people discussing how the Power FC is old technology. What you guys think?

[zebra]

  LatinR33 said:

Hey Guys just wanted your opinion. Ive been looking at some of the ECU postings and Ive been reading people discussing how the Power FC is old technology. What you guys think?

Old Yes.....But Still Effective, Just misses out on some of the Newer stuff available today suck as anti-lag, Ignition cut, Multiple maps ect.

But gains with its plug and play factory style management.....ie You can plug it in and drive.....no need to worry about light load maps, cold start etc.

I swear By mine (R33 GTS-t)

[RBwhatever]

Yeah if they were never discontinued all this talk about PFC being outdated wouldn't have come about.

Its because they're no longer the cheapest and most effective option for its price that its been labeled old and outdated.

Honestly if you could still buy them for $900 odd dollars, would you still say its not a good option? Would you still say get an EMU over a PFC? Some will say yes, but I know plenty would say no.

For the price the discontinued ones go for now, you can pick up later and greater ECU's with more options than you can poke a stick at.

But its time to move on, just accept they're not any longer a very feasible option and you can get something else that will fill your needs anyway for the same price.

But if you can pick one up for a reasonable price then I'd say jump at it. If not don't worry about it and get an EMU.

I bought a PFC just after they were discontinued, got it just as their prices started to rise. It wasn't cheap, but not overly expensive either. I don't regret buying it.

Edited September 21, 2007 by KeyMaker

[stolen_s15]

The technology used in our skylines is older and more outdated, however I think they are still very effective. You dont always need the latest and greatest.

[Spook's_Skyline]

would buy again, excellent product A++

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Best mod i ever bought

[a20089]

I recently purchased one and the inability to change between maps has me annoyed.

[Yo-Yo]

For the plug & play ability it has my vote

I was lucky enough to buy mine cheap as they were just getting discontinued

[scathing]

"Old" and "outdated" are two different things. Internal combustion's no spring chicken either, but its not like an electric motor going to replace it in a production capacity in the near future. With crude oil "running out", most of the effort to resolve this issue is still going into changing what goes into an internal combustion engine, not the method it converts stored energy into kinetic energy.

The only thing people don't like about the PowerFC, as an entry level "plug & play" ECU, against more modern offerings is an inability to store/load multiple maps within the ECU itself. However, if A'PEXi were to release a new version it wouldn't be a massive step to integrate such functionality. Some memory and a switch / menu for the hand controller would be all that's required.

I hope A'PEXi (or someone else) does replace the discontinued PowerFC, with that extra functionality (and a ECU for the VQ series engines).

[R31Nismoid]

Well you can still get a PFC for $900 for a RB26

So IMO they still hold their weight.

The fact it comes with a base tune is also a winner.

Other ECU's might have launch control, or some other feature. But honestly, when are you going to use it in a street car?

Plus we are talking cars 10+ years old now.

[Cubes]

As Ash said... Its an excellent option for a street car.

It cold starts, warm starts, idle's, cruises and operates the a/c like a factory ecu.

I wouldn't consider it 'outdated' as it still offers features that only the top end ecu's worth more than 2x its price do.

6x injector drivers (Sequential Injection!), 6 x coil drivers, overrun fuel cut, closed loop o2 control just to name a few.

Most importantly it just works. Which results in cheaper tuning costs that tuners 'should' be passing on to their customers.

[moonus]

  Cubes said:

It cold starts, warm starts, idle's, cruises and operates the a/c like a factory ecu.

I wouldn't consider it 'outdated' as it still offers features that only the top end ecu's worth more than 2x its price do.

6x injector drivers (Sequential Injection!), 6 x coil drivers, overrun fuel cut, closed loop o2 control just to name a few.

100% agreed. for a plug n play to do all these things, it should be highly recommended

[Warpspeed]

Power FC is excellent value, and hardly outdated. If you want to pay more for something with more features that is still plug and play, check out the newest Skyline version of the Autronic SM4.

[EliteGTR]

heres a recent discussion about it on the US Forum. maybe it will help answer some of your questions.

http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=174568

[eugen_syd]

I have a POWER FC in my car..and I really don;t know exactly what it does..but is a...MUST. Hmmm hate to disapoint you but we have the same combustion engine since 1800... still I love my line...don't you?????

Cheers,

eug.

[Ryanrb25]

i spent 1400 bux on mine and dont regret it...best mod ive bought. hands down

[Gazzilla]

I just got Mine Installed last week. loving it already. I was skeptical at spending the dosch on it, but not looking back now.