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what will be involved in purchasing a brand new one from Japan and importing it here? is it even possible to do this as they are expecting them to be delivered in 2009? Does anybody know the fees for compliancing if it is possible to import them?

I don't know what else you could possible want from a car then what these babies offer and for the price.... pwoah its gona shit the supercar market!

I WANT ONE NOW

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wanna be the first to crash test a GTR? Nissan sure as hell isn't gonna hand over the crash test data, and part of the compliance application process is proving that the car meets ADR's or can be modified to meet ADR's using scientific data. Might not be a possibility given the high cost straight away, but when crashed wrecks become available then maybe.

Although that's not gonna stop workshops from bringing in GT-R's for compliance testing purposes :rolleyes: well... as soon as its on the SEVS list.

damn so its a lot more complicated then I thought =(

see I thought it was just a matter of buying one over in Japan and bringing it here, then compliacing it, but I guess I was wrong.

compliance is a VERY technical process that can take as long as a year to be authorised by DOTARS. keep in mind you have to prove that the car you're bringing in as a grey import meets EVERY single ADR (including emissions data for the new VR engine, crumple zones, and protection etc). Once you can prove this, then you're given permission to import them in volume, which is how you get your R34. Usually one workshop collects all the necessary data, and once they are accepted by DOTARS, they usually onsell this data to other workshops who want to do the same. The other workshops don't have to crash test a car, and thereby save money, the original workshop that accumulated the data recuperates the costs by selling a stack of photocopied paper for thousands of dollars... win win situation.

but in any case, compliancing is easy in the latter stages once somebody's already done it, but if you're pioneering it, its like drawing blood from a stone and can be a very long, stressful process.

That said, putting in the groundwork now in the early stages (ie before Nissan sells locally) means that few years later down the track it'll be worthwhile.... just like compliancing S15's is now.

so firstly the car needs to be on the sevs list..

then to get the first compliance done someone needs to crash test a gtr and make sure it meets all adr requirments?

is there a deadline before nissan brings theirs in??

and does nissan bringing theirs in change anything to the importing?

I am sure the Crash test data will be available ex-USA. I think this was how the v35 was done. I still however think it will be a limited market. Imagine trying to find a 1 year old GTR for sale in Japan, buying it and then importing. There will be huge demand for this and no warranty to boot.

I still think the dealer option is the best one. Note the GTR service schedule that runs over 3 years and includes regular finetuning of the engine and transaxle. These costs would be borne by those who go the grey import route....and NISSAN AUS would obviously sting you for not buying through them...

I am sure the Crash test data will be available ex-USA. I think this was how the v35 was done. I still however think it will be a limited market. Imagine trying to find a 1 year old GTR for sale in Japan, buying it and then importing. There will be huge demand for this and no warranty to boot.

I still think the dealer option is the best one. Note the GTR service schedule that runs over 3 years and includes regular finetuning of the engine and transaxle. These costs would be borne by those who go the grey import route....and NISSAN AUS would obviously sting you for not buying through them...

Nissan Australia's not exactly the bargain mechanics either... premium product means premium service prices. Grey importing in my eyes is stickin it to The Man... hehe.

Might be able to get the crash test data from the US, but there's still a matter of RHD vs LHD. Meh, that's a matter for the compliancers... I think the first thing on the path to grey import GT-R's would be to get it on the SEVS list.

Nissan Australia's not exactly the bargain mechanics either... premium product means premium service prices. Grey importing in my eyes is stickin it to The Man... hehe.

Might be able to get the crash test data from the US, but there's still a matter of RHD vs LHD. Meh, that's a matter for the compliancers... I think the first thing on the path to grey import GT-R's would be to get it on the SEVS list.

The ONLY way you can get one prior to the delivery of Aussie vehicles is to come over here, stay for a year and take the car back with you as a personal import.

lol, i might have one into the country before anyone in Oz does! That would be sweet. :P

if nissan low volume import does that mean the compliancers wouldnt have to go through the test data collection ie evo 8.. where they could still import them due to low volume...

I really am not informed when it comes to compliance laws.. so any education / clarification is good.

The ONLY way you can get one prior to the delivery of Aussie vehicles is to come over here, stay for a year and take the car back with you as a personal import.

lol, i might have one into the country before anyone in Oz does! That would be sweet. :P

that would mean you'd have it by December 2008 going by best case scenario. Highly doubtful given the backlog.

In any case the whole point of low volume imports is NOT to get it BEFORE people in australia do, but as an alternative way of aquiring one, instead of being restricted to going through Nissan. Its also not the ONLY way, but meh. The easiest way is to get it on the SEVS list, get compliance, bring it down as a test vehicle. It happened before when the V35 was still being approved, companies were running around with them on the street on trade plates.

But for argument sake, I'll just say you're correct rather than delve into the legalities.

actually the quickest way to get one here is race/rally use. You can buy it today and ship it tomorrow, have it on the road in 3 months. There are at least 2 already ordered this way for Aus

that would mean you'd have it by December 2008 going by best case scenario. Highly doubtful given the backlog.

In any case the whole point of low volume imports is NOT to get it BEFORE people in australia do, but as an alternative way of aquiring one, instead of being restricted to going through Nissan. Its also not the ONLY way, but meh. The easiest way is to get it on the SEVS list, get compliance, bring it down as a test vehicle. It happened before when the V35 was still being approved, companies were running around with them on the street on trade plates.

But for argument sake, I'll just say you're correct rather than delve into the legalities.

funk meister, you are right because i overlooked the race/rally concessions.

but.

Would you like to be the first to bring the car down here and watch it get smashed to bits in front of you all in the name of safety? lol, its not like the car wasnt safe in the first place. Makes me LOFL thinking how many shitboxes are on Aussie roads and there the government is trying to prove beyond doubt that the gtr isnt safe for aussie roads and if by some fluke, it is...well then, the gtr is a damned lucky machine then isnt it?

Let me rephrase my point. .

There are TWO ways of getting the GTR faster than anyone else and going through SEVS is NOT one of them.

you claim that its the easiest way. Would you care to clarify this for me Munkster? Id love to hear why you think so.

Lucky for me, im here in Japan...

i know they cant stop me if i have all he documents of ownership after a year in 2008.

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