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Something about the costs i remember reading once. Basically it was costing Ford and Holden too much to race their overseas cars like the Sierra and things.

Then Nissan jumped in with the GT-R, raised the whole bar even more so. Holden and Ford started bitching 'cause it was too hard to play catchup and would have cost them even more money - sooked enough and made it only Aussie cars. Entertainment factor went out the window just about that point.

With the HDT427, bit surprising as they were probably prepared to lose out on it just to sell a few of them. Just think of the millions spent on research and marketing alone. Guess the $ got a bit too high for their own comfort. Plenty of people would have bought them, mostly collectors and stupidly rich people. Doubt you would have seen many actually driving the streets, just gathering dust in some garage.

Lets just hope Ford brings out a twin-turbo XR6 and make things *really* interesting. Sticks the foot right up Holden's ass.

Just clarifying the Pagani Zonda issue, they are not powered by a motorcycle engine but a Mercedes V12. There is the Zonda C12 (6.0litre) C12S (7.0litre), and C12S 7.3.

The C12S 7.3 is the most powerful and quickest:

* 7.3L AMG V12 engine

* 6spd manual RWD

* 414Kw/555bhp

* 749Nm

* 1350kg (3.26Kg/Kw)

* 0-60mph = 3.6s

* Top Speed 220mph

The Group A GTR was run by Gibson Motorsport and developed with little help from Nissan (I think...).

I think some teams were going bust cause the cost of Group A racing was mega and it didn't help that there was a recession.

Originally posted by slip

SS8 - a zonda has twin bike engines and revs to 50,000rpm?

There is no bike engine I know of that revs past 20,000rpm, and I owned one of those.  I thought the Zonda was a V8/V12.  Ive got it in a magazine somewhere actually.

i saw it on TopGear (yes, so info source is very dodgy) but it was quite a while ago, so couldn't remember exact specs. If u look at my original post i wrote 50,000,000 (50 million :P) i was just emphasing the revving ability of the twin bike engines. I was being literal silly :)

HSVKLR: Well obviously i'm thinking of another car. I was soo sure it was called the Zonda tho, was the fastest car they had taken around their track that they got. Anyway, this OTHER zonda :P sounds crazy!!

So does anyone know of a twin motorbike powered car from the UK? or am i just on drugs??

hmmm...

if this thing was road registerable, and had a full roll cage, including bar across the rear window, we should be allowed to have cages too.

if it had ever hit the road, that is...

actually i'm glad they never built the damned things. as soon as i saw it i thought it was the dumbest idea i had heard in a long time. the arrogance and pig headed boganness of holden to even imply that it was in the same league as the super cars - to " match the best porsche and ferrari have to offer" is just insane!

this car is totally unrefined. holden's answer to making a faster car? put a bigger engine in it! can you believe these guys?

i get so angry talking to these boneheads... i have to stop now, before i go out on a rampage...

yeah. they are just so frustrating. got this guy, challenged me and MetBlue_GTST to a race in november. in perth, barbagallo raceway. all welcome :P. but seriously, he's got this old vb combidoor that he's 'doin up' and its 'sick' and 'f*'n awesome'. its like an old single cam 6 (202, stroked out to 205!!). he says he is gonna run nos and get into the 12's. haha dude we run 12's in street legal (ahem) machines! gonna be so sweet takin his buy in cash off him :)

SS8_Gohan, your thinking of a monster called a tiger racing z100.

Had two motorbike engines approx 150kw each with 2 gearboxes, it actually has two seperate gear change mechanisms held together so you move both gear shifts at once. Crazy.

It had a standard clubman body, 4wd, and 300kw = Isane power to weight ratio - it beat a mclaren F1 in 0-160-0 test.

Check it out here:

http://www.tigerracing.co.uk/cars/z100main.htm

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