Wheel Alignment Tyresaver Or Performance?

[(B1) MR_fanny]

so due to a defect i got new advan v103's, camber kits and a tyre saver wheel alignment. the car now feels very floaty at the steering wheel which im not liking. the car previously had a bit of camber and toe in the front, dont know the exact measurements, that gave a more direct handling feel and turnin was alot more crisp. it was great.

just wanted to know how many of you guys are running performance v's tyresaver alignments on your daily drivers? i want to get the most out of the tyres but at the same time get some decent handling out of them also. is it an either or scenario? they are asymetrical and stagered set so i cant rotate them which sucks.

cheers.

[bryyy]

Toe in on the front ?

[mad082]

you don't want toe in at the front. toe out gives you better turn in.

as for feeling floaty, that could be caused by tyre pressure.

[Abo Bob]

But you do get floaty from toe in but it certainly wont be saving your tyres.

My alignment is a compromise. -1.5 deg camber, 0 toe, about 8 deg caster.

[(B1) MR_fanny]

ha...i got toe confused with castor...lol.

i think i'll be getting the front re-alined for the next driver training day at sandown. so i take it you guys are running a compromised setup like abo bob?

[R338OY]

I'm in the same boat mate.

My front tyres are wasted on the inside of the tread, though the rest looks like new

Rears wear more evenly (though completely bald ).

Car is sitting on coilovers and has slightly negative camber, so i'm guessing that's shortening the life of the front tread.

My mate said a camber kit will solve it (but i'm guessing handling will be poorer).

What should i do? The car is only used for street, for now, so do i need a camber kit? Or should i just save the misery of sloppier turn-in and leave it?

[Abo Bob]

I have the Whiteline adjustable camber bushes and adjust them all the way out for street (-1.5) and all the way out for track (-3), although I've got a slightly bent lower control arm at the moment which makes this a lie on one side until I get it fixed/replaced.

Omar, re your fronts, toe or camber can cause this. See if you can get the current settings for us. A wheel alignment shop might put it on the machine for a few $ and we can advise from there. That said, if your steering feels good then it's probably the camber which you can fix with adjustable camber bushes, providing you don't have too much to adjust out, or you can raise the car a little, or a combo of both.

Rears, there is a small amount of adjustment for camber standard but you've probably just lowered it too much so yeah, camber kit again to fix unless raising the car back up again.

[R338OY]

Omar, re your fronts, toe or camber can cause this. See if you can get the current settings for us. A wheel alignment shop might put it on the machine for a few $ and we can advise from there. That said, if your steering feels good then it's probably the camber which you can fix with adjustable camber bushes, providing you don't have too much to adjust out, or you can raise the car a little, or a combo of both.

Rears, there is a small amount of adjustment for camber standard but you've probably just lowered it too much so yeah, camber kit again to fix unless raising the car back up again.

I can see by eye all the wheels lean inwards slightly. The handling is crisp too, so i'm guessing its definitely camber. I'm going for a wheel alignment & balance soon, i'll ask for their opinion on the fronts.

I'd probably get the camber bushes if that was the solution, but saying that the nose sits quite low (the front lip might exaggerate that though) so raising a few cms wouldn't be a problem to save $$ on tyres.

I'll probably post again when i get more info and see what my options are.

Thanks Abo Bob.