Avo Front Mount Intercoolers???

[SIR33]

HEY JUST WONDERING WHAT PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THESE INTERCOOLERS IN COMPARISON TO OTHER BRANDS????

THANKS GUYS

[Guest mort]

We have been using AVO products for a number of years now and to be honest with you we can't fault any of there gear as well as being reasonably priced their gear actually works like it was intended to doesn't just look pretty.

[raist60]

Ive got an AVO front mount on mine and it works well. Nice package bolts straight on no surprises. I believe im giving it a fair bit of work and it handles it nicely, during dyno runs the turbo side is almost too hot to touch whilst the plenum side is only marginally warm.

Any other reputable brand is probably just as good but the AVO is on par.

[SIR33]

and what about apexi intercoolers????

[Guest robertr]

Apexi??? double the price. AVO works well

[YBSLO4]

I got a custom AVO cooler built and its awesome... very thick bar and plate core, with end tanks that run piping out each end so i can run custom piping rather than through the stock position for when the plenum goes on and front mounted throttle body. but i must admit after looking for a while and researching brand name cores, a lot of the popular jap stuff is crap!! Trust me... research a bit of physics and you'll agree too. A big supriser, the popular HKS cooler is shyte... unless you plan yo spend up big on say a Trust SPL drag core then don't buy a jap cooler cos there is some really good stuff here with better results.

[KamikazeR33]

how much for one?

[Ronin 09]

tried ARE? www.are.com.au

[YBSLO4]

My AVO cooler cost 880 for the bare core, bout 100 per end tank and the labor cost i aint sure of. But not cheap but worth the quality. ARE are also very very good, but are similar in pricing, but once again they aint cheap for a reason.

[Roy]

but i must admit after looking for a while and researching brand name cores, a lot of the popular jap stuff is crap!! Trust me... research a bit of physics and you'll agree too. A big supriser, the popular HKS cooler is shyte...

Thats a pretty big call, what physics tells us the stuff is crap?

[YBSLO4]

end tank design and inlet/outlet direction, flow levels etc... trust me do some work on it and you'll see.

[Roy]

I agree the AVO coolers are a good unit, so are the ARE coolers

But my old work builds heat exchangers, and i dont see the problem with my HKS Type S cooler.

[YBSLO4]

I think i wored my statement wrong there, HKS coolers are good don't get me wrong and they are extremely popular but for the hype and brag about them, technically they are not there... put it this way a Hybrid cooler built in aus about 800 for it cooler more efficiently than a HKS type S...?? add piping and your look at around the 1350 mark, a HKS kit cheap is about 17-1800... why would ya bother just for a name? It just pays to do a bit of research on stuff to see what you are acutally buying.

[Roy]

Cool. i agree that they are not always good value for money, with many local kits being of equal quality, perhaps better. But my opinion (based on having some technical knowledge through study and work) is that the hype concerning most Jap intercoolers is warranted, but the price may not be.

If buying local though i hazard this warning, be sure to buy from a reputable place, such as AVO, ARE amongst others.

Some come with nicely formed end tanks but use cheap and nasty cores so to offer competitive prices. Some come with end tanks that are cast and based on the GTR end tank, but use poor flowing cores, problem is they look the goods, even the width of the tubes doesnt clue you in that the core is restrictive.

I was surprised to learn that bar and plate cores are on average cheaper to manufacture then tube and fin. Note: cheaper to manufacture, not are poorer quality or not as good.

[Ronin 09]

roy, do they end up more expensive (bar and plate) because they are more prone to leaking? Any other ideas? Coz i'm looking at an ARE bar and plate

[YBSLO4]

There a positives and negatives to both types of coolers... depends on teh manufacturer of the core as to whether the bar na dplate core is likely to leak... basically garrett themselves say their cores aren't 100% sealed when they sell them to you!! But if you look at their core you'd see why its pretty damn average. Basically if you have the room to fit a large tube and fin cooler, go for it as it will work the best. However size for size, a bar and plate cooler will nearly all fo the time have a better result overall. A bar and plate cooler will get a lower intake temperature than a tube and fin HOWEVER will have a slightly higher pressure drop than a tube and find. this is why i said if you have the room to fit a large tube and fin then you can cool to the same amount but with less pressure drop...yes? So it all depends, on what you are after, and a lot of factors, i.e. size, shape, style or brand of core can be either tube and fin, bar and plate, square tube and fin etc. So to cut it short, bar and plate cools better, tube and fin less pressure drop...

[sHorty]

i dont see why all u ppl are paying so much for coolers and piping... i paid 300 for piping apex piping and 500 for my core avo core with trust end tanks

[KamikazeR33]

Originally posted by YBSLO4

My AVO cooler cost 880 for the bare core, bout 100 per end tank and the labor cost i aint sure of. But not cheap but worth the quality. ARE are also very very good, but are similar in pricing, but once again they aint cheap for a reason.

hmmmm

i can get an avo core 600x300 plus trust end tanks built for $500

glad i have good contacts

[Ronin 09]

sHorty: New? unlikely. Genuine? possibly. Hot? Likely.

No offense, but genuine Trust/Apexi/AVO stuff starts at 1500 for the whole kit, maybe a bit less at trade.

Additionally, i'm fairly sure Trust don't make or sell separate end tanks, nor would AVO just sell the core. Why? To protect their name from badly assembled hack-togethers. Is the core stamped with AVO? Are the end tanks stamped with TRUST? Or did the person selling it just tell you that? Again i don't mean to offend; as long as the cooler does its job you got a great deal regardless of the make/manufacture.

I am waiting for an ARE cooler from QLD to come in about 2 weeks. I went with them (even though they are a bit dearer than other locals, but cheaper than a jap cooler) because they have a product that appears to be extensively researched and tested. As rb20-calais mentioned, they are renowned for quality of manufacture and performance. Bottom line is i know where the cooler is from and want to support the local industry.

[KamikazeR33]

sHorty: myron that u?