Gym And Supplement Discussion

[macdog]

It's not necessarily cutting out...I don't agree with cutting anything out, or "diets" so to speak. It's just increasing intake of certain foods

Balanced is definitely a good thing.

mate, you should try crossfit.com

I'm hooked.

some of the stuff is fcking insane though. Love it!!

[Nee-san]

IF YOU'VE GOT A DOOR YOU'VE GOT A GYM !

But seriously, seeing pretty good gains using the Birdman workout !

Just eating steak now and only running 5 days a week, my biceps are gunna be redikulus for da ladies LOL.

[Birds]

You're still doing it? Nice! Stay in there. Meant to ask you how that was going for you

I added woodchops to the routine for a good oblique/core exercise...if you can find space throw them in on day 1

[adznight]

lol... if you want to add muscle get lots of protein and BCAAs... carbs don't grow muscle proteins do... carbs feed the muscle with energy... you don't need to carb load... the only time you should be eating simple carbs is before during and after an intense workout... otherwise you should be eating complex carbs in whole foods (veggies, salad etc)

Hanaldo mate salad is carbs... Milk and nuts aren't carbs so to speak... nuts are fat, but good fat so eat lots of them... Milk is high in protein so also good for bulking... but it all depends on your body type

have a protein shake before bed is good as it keeps your metabolism running while your asleep... no need to have a high carb shake tho... even just a glass of milk is good, chuck some milo in it if you want

you want to add quality bulk... not a bunch of fat... you might be able to get away with eating heaps of simple carbs (starchy food like pasta, potatoes etc) if your an ectomorph (hard gainer) or your working out very intensely and frequently

This

[NickR33]

I am indeed an ectomorph. I once weighed 63-64kg at the same height (6'3").

I agree that beginners should build up a solid base before they turn towards advanced techniques designed to break through a plateau.

I had plateaued on the scales...I wanted to be heavier because I always felt like a lightweight, so I took the shortcut of bulking instead of trying to build lean muscle and slowly gaining weight that way. I gained muscle from doing it, but I also copped some fat due to the extra food and the cessation of my cardio. It goes hand in hand with that style of bulking.

In retrospect it wasn't the best idea, particularly when my pants became a bit tight (this is worrying). But now that I've cut down the food and am back onto cardio, I've trimmed most (if not all) of the extra fat off. The results are pretty good and I don't regret it. People have told me that I look bigger than before the bulk (hard to trust gym junkies, sometimes they just talk shit), and yet I've got most (if not all) of my old tone back now. Life is good!

how heavy are you now? i is jealous... I haven't been 64kg since high school... even at my fittest in my early 20's I was 70kg... and I'm 5'10" in shoes lol

i feel guilty when I eat a potato... its hard not drinking as well... i love beer too much

my old man just did another PT seminar... which sucks because he comes back with all new weird and painful shit to make me do

[R31Nismoid]

mate, you should try crossfit.com

I'm hooked.

some of the stuff is fcking insane though. Love it!!

Yeah all my mates in Defence are into it in a big way, they tell me its the more gruelling/punishing thing they've done and are much stronger because of it. But not neccesarily bigger - more core/base than anything else.

These guys do stuff like illegal boat boarding parties etc etc so they live in the gym anyway but say it's better.

Once i get some base fitness going i'll be getting into it too i reckon

[Trozzle]

boat boarding parties? The f**k is that? I can't think of anything it could be that would make it illegal :\

[Birds]

how heavy are you now? i is jealous... I haven't been 64kg since high school... even at my fittest in my early 20's I was 70kg... and I'm 5'10" in shoes lol

i feel guilty when I eat a potato... its hard not drinking as well... i love beer too much

my old man just did another PT seminar... which sucks because he comes back with all new weird and painful shit to make me do

84/85 at the moment. I got to 88/89 when I was bulking up, starting at about 80. Loved being a heavier kunt, but I did not like the jeans being tight or the slight roll of fat on my stomach! My friend is 70kg at about your height and he is a very fast runner...I'm jealous of his speed...makes me want to lose more weight to get quicker running times, but I love the gym / muscle too much. On the flip side, I now love running too much to want to get bigger at the gym. Gotta strike a balance between it

What do you weigh at the moment?

[Birds]

We now have a health and wellbeing section? AWESOME!

[Trozzle]

Oh, nice! This section should get some decent attention straight off the bat!

I'm considering buying some near-new K2 inline skates (roller blades, yo) from the dude sitting next to me here at work. Barely ever used them, and I used to LOVE blading. I can certainly remember how good of a workout it is, that's for sure!

[dezz]

boat boarding parties? The f**k is that? I can't think of anything it could be that would make it illegal :\

Dare say he means they board illegal boats entering our waters in order to detain the people on them..

[dezz]

In other news, I'm sitting around 87.5/88kg at the moment...Thought I'd drop now that I'm playing footy again, but managing to maintain around that weight. Carrying a little bit of fat, but nothing I can't lose in a month or so when I decide to clean up the eating..

[Birds]

Oh, nice! This section should get some decent attention straight off the bat!

I'm considering buying some near-new K2 inline skates (roller blades, yo) from the dude sitting next to me here at work. Barely ever used them, and I used to LOVE blading. I can certainly remember how good of a workout it is, that's for sure!

K2 Moto? I have Extremes...they were pricey but very good. Wheels are HUGE.

[NickR33]

84/85 at the moment. I got to 88/89 when I was bulking up, starting at about 80. Loved being a heavier kunt, but I did not like the jeans being tight or the slight roll of fat on my stomach! My friend is 70kg at about your height and he is a very fast runner...I'm jealous of his speed...makes me want to lose more weight to get quicker running times, but I love the gym / muscle too much. On the flip side, I now love running too much to want to get bigger at the gym. Gotta strike a balance between it

What do you weigh at the moment?

approx 87kg... could do to lose 5kg of fat though... you love running!? I don't mind sprinting but running is boring as hell

yeah when I was 70kg I was super quick... played pretty serious basketball as a a point guard... our team went on a trip to San Fran to play a tournament and I was the only guy on our team quick enough to guard the black guys... the cliche of african americans being 'explosive and athletic' is 100% true

we do a crossfit kinda workout on sat mornings (weights, sprints, kettlebells, medicine balls etc etc)... its much harder than a straight up weight training session... TBH I kinda hate it but do it anyway

Dezz who you play for?

[R31Nismoid]

Dare say he means they board illegal boats entering our waters in order to detain the people on them..

You always understand me

But ye, thats what i mean. Intercepting illegal fishing boats, drug runners, "refugees" etc.

Gotta be in pretty good condition for that kinda shit, gets pretty full on im told.

[Birds]

approx 87kg... could do to lose 5kg of fat though... you love running!? I don't mind sprinting but running is boring as hell

yeah when I was 70kg I was super quick... played pretty serious basketball as a a point guard... our team went on a trip to San Fran to play a tournament and I was the only guy on our team quick enough to guard the black guys... the cliche of african americans being 'explosive and athletic' is 100% true

we do a crossfit kinda workout on sat mornings (weights, sprints, kettlebells, medicine balls etc etc)... its much harder than a straight up weight training session... TBH I kinda hate it but do it anyway

Dezz who you play for?

That's pretty solid for your height!

Yer I love it. The endorphins going through your head when you get back from a full pelt run are better than any drugs lol. Always trying to beat my last time, so I guess I don't find it boring because I'm always concentrating on breathing and trying to squeeze out every last bit of energy to get a better time.

[Trozzle]

K2 Moto? I have Extremes...they were pricey but very good. Wheels are HUGE.

No idea on the model sorry, I'll chuck up pics tomorrow when he brings them in to show me/I buy them if they fit.

You always understand me

But ye, thats what i mean. Intercepting illegal fishing boats, drug runners, "refugees" etc.

Gotta be in pretty good condition for that kinda shit, gets pretty full on im told.

Oh I geddit now! lol. Cousin used to do that in the Navy, reckons it was a blast! Though yes it does get full on from what he was telling me, gotta be ready to jump on the boat with your gear and assert yourself for an extended period of time.

[dezz]

Dezz who you play for?

Glenorden, unlikely you've heard of them..

WRFL Div 1

[Nee-san]

80KG

175 CM

low bodyfat.

Aim is to add 5kg - 10KG over a period of time going for a super athletic 85 - 90kg

thinking about playing football again.

[NickR33]

That's pretty solid for your height!

Yer I love it. The endorphins going through your head when you get back from a full pelt run are better than any drugs lol. Always trying to beat my last time, so I guess I don't find it boring because I'm always concentrating on breathing and trying to squeeze out every last bit of energy to get a better time.

yeah that's the key, having a measure so you can always push to get faster, make a game out of it

I'm not built for jogging... sprinting yes... long distance... ahhh no... maybe if I lost about 10kg!

yeah fairly solid... I never fit into shirts unless they're custom made, my neck is a full size bigger than the rest of me so I can never get the button done up lol... and I have relatively short arms... my bro in law who trains with me calls me T Rex... he reckons that's why I can lift more cos I don't have to move it as far lol

nice Dezz, haven't heard of them but that doesn't mean much... heaps of respect for footy players and the fitness/toughness you need