Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Dani Boi]

lol @ all the tards desperately rushing out and/or paying premiums for the last of the Jack3d. What are these people going to do after it runs out, never train again? Suck it up and find something else princesses...

Buy a different pwo? yumadbro?. What do you do for work, how long do you work for?

Edited July 31, 2012 by Dani Boi

[TTT]

Trozzle - Anatoly is the only one wearing weightlifting shoes.

look close, you'll see they have a heel.

Google images will show you heaps.

These are my ones.

[No Crust Racing]

Using this as an example for Bench.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/betteru9.htm

Talks about locking down the shoulders, and I've read/watched countless sources that say you should be trying to squeeze your shoulder blades toegther and puffing out your chest. I find that doing so seems to strain my neck a bit.

Using this as an example of Rows.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/bent-over-barbell-row

How far forward are we supposed to lean and is the bar being brought straight up to the chest or up to the waist, as I've seen both done. He's going to the waist in that pic, so moving up on an angle. I've also read different things about if the grip should be pronated or supinated on this.

Using this as an example of SLDL.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/stiff-legged-barbell-deadlift

How far forward are people leaning and are you keeping the bar close to your shins as you do it or allowing it to hang under your chest where it naturally wants to hand with gravity?

[Birds]

Buy a different pwo? yumadbro?. What do you do for work, how long do you work for?

It's people trying hard to procrastinate an issue they're going to have to face soon anyway. Unless you buy 50 tubs of the stuff it's a waste of time chasing it down.

Heard people talking about trying to get it at the gym, they were skinny bitches too lol.

[Trozzle]

I'm only heading out to my supp store this arvo on the hopes I can get it cheap, otherwise I don't really care lol

[Trozzle]

Trozzle - Anatoly is the only one wearing weightlifting shoes.

look close, you'll see they have a heel.

Google images will show you heaps.

These are my ones.

Ah ok, interesting. Cheers for the info

[Trozzle]

Oh also I just re read the report on the xray I had on my back ages ago - it was T5 that had anterior wedging with 20% loss in anterior height or something along those lines. T7 and T9 took a flogging too.

[NickR33]

http://www.bodybuild...un/betteru9.htm

Talks about locking down the shoulders, and I've read/watched countless sources that say you should be trying to squeeze your shoulder blades toegther and puffing out your chest. I find that doing so seems to strain my neck a bit.

Using this as an example of Rows.

http://www.bodybuild...ver-barbell-row

How far forward are we supposed to lean and is the bar being brought straight up to the chest or up to the waist, as I've seen both done. He's going to the waist in that pic, so moving up on an angle. I've also read different things about if the grip should be pronated or supinated on this.

Using this as an example of SLDL.

http://www.bodybuild...arbell-deadlift

How far forward are people leaning and are you keeping the bar close to your shins as you do it or allowing it to hang under your chest where it naturally wants to hand with gravity?

I wouldn't generally got to BB forums for form advice but they aren't too bad... with bench press, yes definitely squeeze you shoulder blades together, arch your lower back and try and keep tension in your whole body so you can use your legs to help you drive the weight up

These guys know their shit, couldn't find their bench press instructional but this is pretty helpful

With bent over rows you will instinctively start standing up straighter as the weight gets heavy so I like to start with my knees bent, bent over to almost 90º... then bring the bar up to your belly button... elbows in toward your sides, not flared out... hold at the top as you squeeze your mid back together... pronated or supinated both good, mix it up

SLDL the bar should contact your body the whole time... push your hips/butt back as you go down, don't simply bend at the waist... you will still have a slight knee bend just make sure you can feel the tension in your hams

hope that helps

[No Crust Racing]

Thanks Nick.

With Bench I have found that if I do as instructed and squeeze my shoulder blades together I don't get the same pump I was (with a flat back and the bar coming down higher up my body, but I think that's because I was using more front of shoulders) and I also find that my legs seem to do little, if I push through them it doesn't seem to help or hinder.

[NickR33]

found it... its actually a whole series, there's 5 or so parts if I remember correctly

[NickR33]

Thanks Nick.

With Bench I have found that if I do as instructed and squeeze my shoulder blades together I don't get the same pump I was (with a flat back and the bar coming down higher up my body, but I think that's because I was using more front of shoulders) and I also find that my legs seem to do little, if I push through them it doesn't seem to help or hinder.

yeah the old flat back, flared elbows, bar down to the upper chest is all shoulders... just my opinion but its a great way to end up with shoulder problems... my bro-in-law benches with a flat back and no leg drive... he can't understand why even though he's 30kg heavier than me he can't bench as much... claims its because I have short arms... I tell him to arch, use legs and he says it doesn't help... its just a technique thing, it takes practice like anything else

[No Crust Racing]

I didn't feel as though my elbows were flared and I've never had shoulder issues, it was only recently when I strained my shoulder a bit by throwing things for hours with my family at the lake and then it wouldn't go away, just a minor strain but I thought it was odd it wasn't leaving. So I started looking at bench technique as a possible re-infalammation point if you get me.

Doing it the "proper" way cost me a few reps on the final set at the same weight so I'm weaker this way but if it's better for me that's fine as it's not about numbers for me. I'll keep at it for a bit and see how I go. My biggest concern is not straining my neck. That said, its fairly common for me to have to drop weight or drop reps when I find I have a technique issue and then fix it, I usually find I'm back to where I was in a few weeks tops.

[Dani Boi]

It's people trying hard to procrastinate an issue they're going to have to face soon anyway. Unless you buy 50 tubs of the stuff it's a waste of time chasing it down.

Heard people talking about trying to get it at the gym, they were skinny bitches too lol.

lawl, you can get the same effects from having 3 cups of coffee or snorting a line of coke pwo anyway.

[Birds]

Yer well that's it. And the reality is that it's not fantastic for the body...circumventing an issue by taking it IMO.

Had a mate who used to smoke weed before going to the gym...claimed it made him energetic and able to work out for longer. Anyone see true benefit to this? I though as a depressant and relaxant it would produce the opposite effects...can't argue with subjective opinion though.

[vspecIInur]

Sometimes after work when I'm a little tired, I might have a very strong greek coffee before training just for that little kick.

[GTR_JOEY]

When Im tired from working all day and I don't feel like going to the gym I say to myself...

Stop being a fag and get ur ass to the gym... Pre workout stimulants are for homos... Sorry Troy

[-FIGJAM-]

no way i could get baked and work out, id fall asleep on bench...

but if i had a couple lines of coke i rekon id smash every body part to death. The crash wouldnt be fun....

[NickR33]

That said, its fairly common for me to have to drop weight or drop reps when I find I have a technique issue and then fix it, I usually find I'm back to where I was in a few weeks tops.

totally agree

I've had to do this with just about every lift... every time a correct my technique I find I'm having to go back to a lighter weight... squats was a big one, when they put mirrors around the squat rack I realised my depth was for shit... dropped 60kg off my squat immediately!

also with bench press I didn't have a good arch and never used to go all the way to my chest... dropped the weight and worked on my technique, full ROM, touching chest etc

since I have corrected the bench press I feel I can move more weight... once you learn to get the legs involved you realise its a whole body exercise

however in the long run I believe doing it the right way will make you stronger and less injury prone so its worth deflating the ego and correcting technique every now and then

the most butchered piece of equipment in the gum has to be the lat pulldown machine... nearly every guy uses too much weight and moves around all over the place... no wonder so many of them have no lats!

[Dani Boi]

Yer well that's it. And the reality is that it's not fantastic for the body...circumventing an issue by taking it IMO.

Had a mate who used to smoke weed before going to the gym...claimed it made him energetic and able to work out for longer. Anyone see true benefit to this? I though as a depressant and relaxant it would produce the opposite effects...can't argue with subjective opinion though.

That's awesome but like you I would think it would have the opposite effect, only one way to find out haha.

This is pretty strange. He moves a lot of weight in his other videos, form is somewhat average.

[Birds]

however in the long run I believe doing it the right way will make you stronger and less injury prone so its worth deflating the ego and correcting technique every now and then

the most butchered piece of equipment in the gum has to be the lat pulldown machine... nearly every guy uses too much weight and moves around all over the place... no wonder so many of them have no lats!

That's it and the sad reality is that as males it's not in our nature to go backwards and think about the long term lol. I've been trying to teach my workout partner correct technique for getting dumbells up for incline press, i.e. deadlift and sit down with them on knees, then lean forward and kick back. At the moment he's bicep curling them up with a nasty twist...gonna be a nice surprise for him when he gets to lifting a decent weight. Better to get started early on I say.

Agree about lat pulldown, for such a straight forward exercise people have some silly ideas about how it should be done. Swinging bodies down and rounding backs, it's hilarious.