Gym And Supplement Discussion

[NickR33]

I definitely prefer the older style bodybuilding look, not so much vascularity... I admire the dedication it takes to get that lean but its a bit extreme

After eating everything I could lay my hands on for the last few weeks prepping for powerlifting I'm now on a diet... it sucks and I'm hungry all the time... seriously I'd rather go to the gym and do a murderous session of barbell complexes, high rep squats and kettlebell circuits than diet... I'm so fckin grumpy

some chicken, avocado, tomato, lettuce for lunch... lame... last week I was smashing lasagne, steaks, burgers... I was so happy *tear*

[darksky34]

ever since i started training + really looking at what/how much i eat, i've been amazed at the difference in: my satiety, the gut feeling after a meal (how what i ate sits in my stomach...), how much less i eat (and how much i used to overeat) etc etc...

the world is screwed up BAD. all these processed foods man......and that's what most people rely on as their 'daily nutrition'.

on the other hand as soon as i see an unhealthy food (ie wedges in your post) i literally almost always run away. like a few days ago i saw a bottle of solo in my fridge (family member's) and i basically slammed the door shut and immediately drank water. hahaha

[Trozzle]

ever since i started training + really looking at what/how much i eat, i've been amazed at the difference in: my satiety, the gut feeling after a meal (how what i ate sits in my stomach...), how much less i eat (and how much i used to overeat) etc etc...

the world is screwed up BAD. all these processed foods man......and that's what most people rely on as their 'daily nutrition'.

on the other hand as soon as i see an unhealthy food (ie wedges in your post) i literally almost always run away. like a few days ago i saw a bottle of solo in my fridge (family member's) and i basically slammed the door shut and immediately drank water. hahaha

I haven't eaten potato as part of my diet for many months now I was just proving to myself (and Tolga) that I'm not as f**ked in the head as I might come across lol

Though yeah I sorta feel the same way with regards to soft drinks. The idea of drinking a sugary soft drink now makes me cringe. I don't even bother with juice any more.

[Dani Boi]

After eating everything I could lay my hands on for the last few weeks prepping for powerlifting I'm now on a diet... it sucks and I'm hungry all the time... seriously I'd rather go to the gym and do a murderous session of barbell complexes, high rep squats and kettlebell circuits than diet... I'm so fckin grumpy

some chicken, avocado, tomato, lettuce for lunch... lame... last week I was smashing lasagne, steaks, burgers... I was so happy *tear*

See I'm exactly the opposite I've dropped from 3500 calories a day to 2500 atm and i prefer eating 2500 calories, so much more convenient. Just east 3 big meals and snack on foods to make up the macros and never hungry , when I was bulking I had to divide that shit up into like 5 meals to be able to eat it all.

[Mitcho_7]

Why are people avoiding potato? I reckon steak and potatoes is a solid post workout meal!

On a different note, I did a deload where I didn't lift all for 6 days. I feel like I have been in a car crash after going through a cycle of my workout, especially my legs. Almost makes me regret owning a low car and living in a house with 10+ stairs to get to the front door...

But my lifts did go up which is a plus I guess!

Edited November 13, 2012 by Mitcho_7

[NickR33]

eating has never been a problem for me... but then again neither has putting on muscle so its a trade off I guess

got home from basketball last night and made myself a Ribena... took a sip, remembered I'm dieting, poured it out and drank a glass of water... did I mention this sucks!?

[jangles]

I make sure I eat taters a couple times a week in my deficit. Love baked potato and wedges.

If I can't fit the ~ 1kg (carb equiv)I need PWO I smash cereal for carbs. It's like icecream, goes into a different stomach when you think you're full! The Fibre keeps you regular too.

Get on the coke zero!

Edited November 13, 2012 by jangles

[Birds]

Am I alone here in preferring to be that middle point in fat % ?

As in, core definition is decent, but you're not looking really tight.

I was this way, and I hope I still am. But I do recognise that, as your body changes, so too can your goals and perceptions without you meaning to. For some personalities, this can be a slippery slope. No one intends to end up that way from the start, so I guess you never know if it can happen to you until you've put a foot over the edge.

TTT's example, is basically the other extreme of people starting off with an idea of how big they want to get at the gym and then they'll stop...then all of a sudden they're injecting shit into themselves because too big is never enough. If your goal is definition, even just a "middle" amount...take it from me...once you obtain it you can start to obsess about it a little. I'm far from knocking back pizza at a mate's house, but I do control the foods I eat and how much of it. I look at my stomach everyday and try to grab a "roll" to qualitatively measure body fat. And then when you get even leaner, you start to like what you see...vascularity...more shape to individual muscles...it becomes your new definition (pun) of what looks good. It also doesn't help that you can look defined in some lights and not defined at all in others...the latter resulting in thought processes that you should cut more. Again, all comes down to personality and some people are more in touch with reality than others. But do consider that no one who got down to 40kg or got on the juice ever intended that to happen from the start. It's a slippery slope...

We are never 100% satisfied with what we have...it's one of those f**ked up survival mechanisms that keeps us going in whatever we do...sometimes to the detriment of our health. I think an important thing to do is regularly consult other people for their opinions, get that unbiased third party perspective so you're not alone in your f**ked up mind making decisions that can really change us. Afterall, if you're shooting for definition you're doing it to look good for other people - their opinions should matter more than yours.

Anyway, enough about Troy's bulimia. Today is squats and deads day, which makes me happy.

[Trozzle]

Bulimia?! hahaha noooooo

I know it's hardly pizza or potato, but this is the second one of these I've eaten today. Plus a heap of bacon and eggs for breakfast. And a large bowl of oats. And a WPI shake.

It's not much compared to some, but I'm not trying to gain weight. Far from bulimia though ya bum

[Dani Boi]

I make sure I eat taters a couple times a week in my deficit. Love baked potato and wedges.

If I can't fit the ~ 1kg (carb equiv)I need PWO I smash cereal for carbs. It's like icecream, goes into a different stomach when you think you're full! The Fibre keeps you regular too.

Get on the coke zero!

Why are you in a deficit, aren't you 71kg 6ft+?

Edited November 13, 2012 by Dani Boi

[NickR33]

on the topic of front squatting...

[Birds]

On cheat days I permit myself to look at food

FYP

My abs can go to hell today...

[jangles]

Why are you in a deficit, aren't you 71kg 6ft+?

I'm ~73 and 179. About 5'9" -10" doesn't mean I have the desired low bodyfat%

Not a massive cut

I'm still gaining strength, size and eat more carbs than most at same figures I assume. It's just how I do it. Lean muscle gains. Sure there are faster ways to get big and strong, I can slap on or lose multiple kg in a week but it won't be muscle. I enjoy all types of foods still, KFC couple times a month. All works.

Edited November 13, 2012 by jangles

[darksky34]

legs day for me too tonight.....dreading it but also looking forward to it.

[Trozzle]

FYP

My abs can go to hell today...

hahahahaha I'll pay that

[Trozzle]

Just started eating BN WPI with a spoon. Why? Because I thought I'd try it for lulz, and it's not bad.

I do however need a glass of water or something. Badly. This shit is like glue.

[Mitcho_7]

on the topic of front squatting...

Damn son!

[Trozzle]

Same guy as yesterday is back with his weightlifting belt, this time using it for seated military on the Smith machine. Wtf.

[TM7GTR]

As dumb as it seems, he may have a messed up back. Should probs ask the guy before we all judge.

*thanks Dr. Phil*

[Trozzle]

As dumb as it seems, he may have a messed up back. Should probs ask the guy before we all judge.

*thanks Dr. Phil*

ok that's a remote possibility I suppose, but seriously...perhaps he should consider rehab exercises first, strengthen his core rather than artificially support it.