Gym And Supplement Discussion

[God_speed]

Foam roller might help a bit if the problem is muscular. I use it a lot on my legs / hip flexors, t-spine stretch etc and find it helps a lot.

Before you even mentioned shoes I was going to suggest you consider what you're using when doing squats or deads. Changing from regular cross trainers to hard, flat soled shoes made an immediate difference to my squatting. Felt so much more secure. I used to get bad hip flexor / TFL pain when doing squats and much of that was because my legs were so tense trying to stabilise the weight. It's not completely gone but it's better. Pendlay Do-wins or similar would be better still but with the amoutn of Oly lifting I do I can't justify the cost for shoes I wouldn't wear anywhere else. I am sure I lean forward a bit too at the lowest part of my squat, it's probably that it feels like the weight is going to fall off backwards (even though that is unlikely) and you instinctively try and move it forward. Maintaining tension in the abdominals and core is also so important in squatting and DLing, so I am learning.

[No Crust Racing]

Physio visit today, she has strapped both feet heavily to see if raising my arches helps.

She also wants me to focus on core/lateral oblique movements an come back in 2 weeks.

Podiatrist friend said leg length and arch response (as in when u are flat footed and pull the big toe up the arch should respond.) she suggested orthotics. Physio said strapping will prove if that's right.

Myo, the only one I actually pay for also gave me oblique targeting stretches (also good massage) and after my last visit (4th I think) said it was the first time my leg lengths and pelvis tilt had been even.

All see to think that if squat/sldl etc was the cause there'd be an acute pain during those motions which there isn't.

I did specify which spot on my back a few posts back with a diagram -basically lower left side.

I don't think a few on and off hours of awkward snoozing in hospital chairs has helped either.

Edited April 16, 2013 by ActionDan

[jangles]

Physio visit today, she has strapped both feet heavily to see if raising my arches helps.

She also wants me to focus on core/lateral oblique movements an come back in 2 weeks.

Podiatrist friend said leg length and arch response (as in when u are flat footed and pull the big toe up the arch should respond.) she suggested orthotics. Physio said strapping will prove if that's right.

Myo, the only one I actually pay for also gave me oblique targeting stretches (also good massage) and after my last visit (4th I think) said it was the first time my leg lengths and pelvis tilt had been even.

All see to think that if squat/sldl etc was the cause there'd be an acute pain during those motions which there isn't.

I did specify which spot on my back a few posts back with a diagram -basically lower left side.

I don't think a few on and off hours of awkward snoozing in hospital chairs has helped either.

have you ever seen anyone that squats or deadlifts 2x + their body weight with a weak core?

[No Crust Racing]

Not doubting you need core, just putting it up for discussion.

If its purely a core issue then I'd be more

Inclined to think its less related to my foot/ankle and more so a strain from starting back work on a weak core. Which seems odd as it doesn't hurt during those motions.

Not hard to think that my core is weaker after working From a recliner for 8 weeks and generally staying off my feet, then only walking on one (so perhaps an imbalance).

I think it was TTT who pointed out I wasn't setting up well enough also so might have strained something also - I feel better about setup at the moment.

With the baby stuff happening I have had to skip gym so we'll see if that plus foot strapping helps.

[Trozzle]

OK so apparently that video I put up of my +26kg x11 reps weighted dips was a piss poor effort on my part, lol. Last night smashed out +32kg x12,12; then +36kg x10; then +40kg x8. Totally stoked with this effort!!

Reckon I can get +50kg for at least 8 reps by the end of the month?

[TTT]

that's some mighty pec/tris you have there.

[TTT]

Need to keep the calories off.

I don't think you need to worry about this, especially next week.

Pics/Vids?

[NickR33]

lol

Trozzle: good work mate, yep 50kg x 8 not far off... my ability to do bodyweight stuff like dips/chins has gotten steadily worse as I've gotten heavier... and of course I'm not focusing on them anymore

[Trozzle]

that's some mighty pec/tris you have there.

haha perhaps you're right although my bench press doesn't back this up, but I think that's due to poor delt strength....fking imbalances!! Partially why I'm focusing more on incline press rather than flat bench - just to activate front delts a little more. Incline dumbbell press is up to 34kg x9,7,6,6 reps now though

And yes I'm doing my best to balance out with pull/back exercises. Plenty of rows with various handles, face pulls with the rope handle, upright rows etc etc

lol

Trozzle: good work mate, yep 50kg x 8 not far off... my ability to do bodyweight stuff like dips/chins has gotten steadily worse as I've gotten heavier... and of course I'm not focusing on them anymore

cheers funnily I'm finding it to be the opposite myself lol - as I'm putting on weight, I'm getting much stronger. Just goes to show how restrictive my diet must have been before when it comes to energy and recovery I guess. Trade off is that I can no longer see my previously well-defined abs hahaha

[NickR33]

yeah I've gotten a lot stronger as my weight has gone up too... but a lot of it has been to my legs, which doesn't translate well to dips/chins!

you have to work out what your goals are... if they are to put on size and strength then your going to have to eat for it... some guys can maintain abs while eating and lifting big, some need to let them go to make progress

put on the muscle now and your metabolism will be quicker when it comes time to restrict calories

everyone thinks they are big enough and have enough muscle etc... until they stand or lift next to a properly big guy... all of a sudden they don't even look like they work out lol

Edited April 17, 2013 by NickR33

[Birds]

If you spend a good night looking at bodybuilder photos or strongman competitions, then see yourself in the mirror later or even look down at your arms...things get a bit depressing lol

[Trozzle]

Goals are aesthetics...which at my previous state required me "bulking" to put on some more muscle mass (and alas, the unavoidable fat when trying to put on mass quickly). Figure we're rolling into winter so I don't really care about losing my abs and bloating out a little...I've cut back once with relative ease so I know it's easy once you commit to it, and as you said - more muscle mass will only make the cut faster due to BMR efficiency. Come beginning of September at the latest, I'll start summer conditioning...see how it goes.

[TTT]

We used to do a friendly comp on another BB site I was/am a member of.

A former member who passed away had started a thread many years ago called "Mild Summer Cut" and so every september we'd do a "mild summer cut" comp in memory of him etc.

Before and after pics and weights etc... and update the thread with what we were eating and so forth.

couple of members had supp stores and put up prizes for the winner etc.

but it was a 12 week effort where you try to come in to the first day of Summer in the best condition you could.

I recon get hayooooge from now and do a proper 12 week cut.

since it's your thing...

Edited April 17, 2013 by TTT

[jangles]

OK so apparently that video I put up of my +26kg x11 reps weighted dips was a piss poor effort on my part, lol. Last night smashed out +32kg x12,12; then +36kg x10; then +40kg x8. Totally stoked with this effort!!

Reckon I can get +50kg for at least 8 reps by the end of the month?

good effort. what sort of workout comes before you do your dips? or are they a primary?

Edited April 17, 2013 by jangles

[NickR33]

We used to do a friendly comp on another BB site I was/am a member of.

A former member who passed away had started a thread many years ago called "Mild Summer Cut" and so every september we'd do a "mild summer cut" comp in memory of him etc.

Before and after pics and weights etc... and update the thread with what we were eating and so forth.

couple of members had supp stores and put up prizes for the winner etc.

but it was a 12 week effort where you try to come in to the first day of Summer in the best condition you could.

I recon get hayooooge from now and do a proper 12 week cut.

since it's your thing...

I always plan to do some variation of this... but it never happens!

[TTT]

that's because you're being jon Cole

[NickR33]

yep!... that's my excuse anyway;)

weight is good at the moment... walking around about 92kg... should be spot on for a small water weight cut

[TTT]

FYI - I pulled out of Nats

[Trozzle]

good effort. what sort of workout comes before you do your dips? or are they a primary?

The last 2 sessions where I've pushed hard on weighted dips, they've been my second exercise for the session - preceded by incline dumbbell press on both occasions (also pushing out new PB for reps on this for both session).

We used to do a friendly comp on another BB site I was/am a member of.

A former member who passed away had started a thread many years ago called "Mild Summer Cut" and so every september we'd do a "mild summer cut" comp in memory of him etc.

Before and after pics and weights etc... and update the thread with what we were eating and so forth.

couple of members had supp stores and put up prizes for the winner etc.

but it was a 12 week effort where you try to come in to the first day of Summer in the best condition you could.

I recon get hayooooge from now and do a proper 12 week cut.

since it's your thing...

haha you always refer to the idea of training for aesthetics in a negative way with sarcasm etc but yes, that's about where I'm headed...continue steady gain until it's time to cut, then see where I am after 12 weeks of proper cutting.

[NickR33]

FYI - I pulled out of Nats

wow, your going to miss out by the sounds of it... injuries or time/money?