Gym And Supplement Discussion

[No Crust Racing]

[Birds]

Stop it.

Make me.

[L33SH]

Make me.

Don't tempt me.

[bozodos]

rev: when I say being strict on myself, I mean not giving in to the desire to eat whatever, or getting on the booze whenever without thinking all the time. It doesn't mean that I'm putting myself on a punishment diet.

I still have my 'cheat' meals (or even days at times, it can be unavoidable). Depends on what your goals are, some want to just lift heavy, some want to look swole, some want aesthetics (<10% bf) etc.

I'm personally trying to lose fat without losing muscle (well as little as possible). I also think that if you're not motivated from within like I am, then it's a LOT harder to stick with it. I've got a lot of people to prove wrong as well.

Birds, do you always try this hard to be edgy?

Edited June 5, 2013 by bozodos

[Birds]

Don't tempt me.

You better...

Better check yourself.,.

Before you wreck yourself...

[L33SH]

You better...

Better check yourself.,.

Before you wreck yourself...

cos you're bad for my health?

[No Crust Racing]

I didn't want to flood the DL thread with my questions so I'll dump it here.

As a an absolute virgin to deadlifting before about, 2mths ago, I've really struggled with the idea/form etc.

I started at 30kg (same for squats) on an ezy bar as I only had a standard 6ft bar and I was too lazy to take the weights off it from bench, now I have a rack and a 7ft bar.

I've been making only very small increases as my back has been a bit iffy along the way due to pelvis alignment and stability issues from breaking my leg/dislocating my ankle. So I've been working on that with a physio, jogging daily and made squatting and deadlifting a part of my routine to get my legs and back solid - my old routine used to be pretty much all upper body work as you guys will remember.

I now deadlift a stunning 60kg for 3x8 (squat is currently 66) I feel like I could add some weigh to the squat without too much drama but the dead feels like slower progress and much harder work. After 3 sets I have a good puff, nothing else taxes me the same way so I'm guessing it's a combo of doing it wrong, poor strength in required areas from having only just started to get into it, and being over cautious with my lower back which has proven that if I don't treat it properly it will jam up on me like last week.

If I had a question, it would be why am I so shit at squat/dl when I see people much lighter squat and DL literally 3 times the amounts. Is it simply that because I've only just started out I don't have a great foundation? Am I just inherently weak in that area? to be fair, I'm not overly strong in any direction and my bench is probably only half OK because I favoured it for so long (repping 96kg at the moment, will up that to 100kg shortly and just leave it there, no idea what 1RMs are, not interested).

Pretty sure Leesh out squats and out deads me, good for her, not so much for my pride

[Trozzle]

Randomly chucked some Equal (aspartame and/or acesulfame potassium)....and I don't mind the taste at all

meh, not like I'm not getting enough artificial sweeteners most days anyway lol

[L33SH]

Haha Dan

Maybe drop in PTC and get the guys to run through your squat and DL form, with you that way your mind will be at ease in that regard?

[No Crust Racing]

6hr round trip? Pass

[No Crust Racing]

I should clarify, I feel I can definitely add squat weight but I do so very slowly to allow my back and ankle to keep pace.

DL's yeah I probably 'could' add weight but form would suffer.

If I had to think about it, I probably feel "weakest" in my back, my quads get busy during the motion and I feel a good burn in there, but it's my back that I'm focusing on the most.

Probably doesn't help that I sit all day and have done for my working life so far.

[L33SH]

6hr round trip? Pass

Aw shit fair enough

[No Crust Racing]

The advice is sound though and I'll have a chat with another mate of mine on the weekend who's shorter, lighter, and a shed load stronger (training bodybuilder so looks matter more than numbers but still).

[L33SH]

Where abouts in Vic are you? There's quite a few Vic people on here, maybe you could meet up with them and run through form?

[No Crust Racing]

Wodonga on the VIC/NSW border.

[No Crust Racing]

Markos what do you find is the issue for new comers to DL? Flexibility? Form? Weakness from lack of experience in the the move etc?

[TTT]

Markos doesn't check this thread due to the amount of Birds-ism in here.

Go visit Laurie Butler.. look him up if you want to know who he is..

http://www.supershape.com.au/index.html

http://www.supershape.com.au/contact.html

Forget about the offerings..

go pay one session and ask Laurie many questions and ask to be shown how to do stuff properly.

[No Crust Racing]

That guy I know.

Wasn't it him or his missus who got done for band substances?

My memory is hazy on it so sorry if I have it wrong.

Edited June 6, 2013 by ActionDan

[TTT]

yep.

still an awesome champion back in the day.

wether he has been busted for drugs or not, he'll still be able to tell you how to deadlift and squat better than anything you are goign to get from SAU or youtube

[No Crust Racing]

No doubt.

Just making sure I had the names right so I didn't say something inappropriate like oh is this that gym were those druggos got done...

At $70 for a one hour session, it pays for itself if it stops me doing an injury and having to go back to paid osteo etc, I'll look into it.