Gym And Supplement Discussion

[Brotato]

You won't if you eat at least 2 hours before you work out for a large meal, or an hour for a small meal.

ah, the old eat 2 hours before training. Lets just say that didn't end too well.

[bozodos]

works for me fine, as long as it's something small. video related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510-WhuGl1w

[-FIGJAM-]

people keep saying food and sleep.

I have increased my food intake considerably over the last few weeks and have not noticed any difference in my workouts.

In saying that I have a real high tolerance to caffeine so pre workouts have never done a great deal for me apart from maybe some extra focus. My training partner on the other hand uses them in cycles and raves about them

[bozodos]

I tried a few, C4 seemed to have a good effect on me, but then I thought "hey I should just sleep and eat effectively rather than using a supplement as a crutch"

[Trozzle]

f**k some posters in here are becoming quite the elitists.

Someone asks for a good PWO - if you're not going to suggest one, don't bother replying.

[No Crust Racing]

people keep saying food and sleep.

I have increased my food intake considerably over the last few weeks and have not noticed any difference in my workouts.

I'm seeing the same. I've specifically added a heap more protein to my diet, and removed more of the bad things also.

But I'm not finding any improvement in say, the amount of reps I can do at a challenging weight on a particular exercise.

Most of the time it seems that once you get to a certain point, say you can do (in my case) 7 reps of a weight when you want to do 8, the best way to get above it is to just add more weight and get to 6-7 at a higher weight, then when you drop the weight back to the previous weight you've got 8 in the tank.

Obviously eating enough to support the work is important, I'm just saying that I personally find that if I am stuck at doing 80-90% of a given weight/rep scheme, eating more on its own does not directly improve it. I have to add weight also.

As for the PWO discussion, I've once tried Craze and it worked very well for me, it's the only one I've tried and I've only used it that one time.

[L33SH]

f**k some posters in here are becoming quite the elitists.

Someone asks for a good PWO - if you're not going to suggest one, don't bother replying.

ooooooo Troy Boy gettin up in ya grill

[L33SH]

Bulk Nutrients has just released Pina Colada flavoured WPC, with WPI being released in a few weeks.

Hell yeah!

[Birds]

You say you've removed a lot of the bad things...this damages your caloric intake...will likely leave you with less energy. When we say eat more food, we mean more...not a restructuring to cleaner eating with less calories.

The point is, if you're eating and sleeping enough then the benefits of a PWO are negated because you have enough rest and energy to blitz a workout and see no change in performance with a PWO.

[No Crust Racing]

They were 2 separate comments for me really.

Just talking about how having eaten more protein etc I'm not seeing a specific improvement in lifts.

Cutting out bad things is simply, less chocolate/sweet treats. More protein and still having carbs.

Plenty of calories. Especially considering I can't do any leg work at the moment.

[-FIGJAM-]

ive increased my food intake by adding another 2 meals a day. Still have not noticed the benefits.

guess im still not eating enough

[No Crust Racing]

I think we'd notice a big improvement if we weren't already eating a reasonable amount.

Either that or the amount extra needed to see real gains is much larger than we think.

I'm open to both ideas.

[Trozzle]

I noticed increased energy from when I was eating a ridiculous amount of food lol

[Dani Boi]

ah, the old eat 2 hours before training. Lets just say that didn't end too well.

C4 is good and it's one of the cheaper ones

My spotter slacking off on the job...

[L33SH]

My friend just started a 1200 calorie a day diet alongside her usual training. She got told she couldn't train at the gym the other day because she nearly fainted doing cardio. She messages me this morning saying she is feeling tired and sick, and went down on her weights last night.

I told her to eat and sent her a photo of my breakfast (cup of oats with chia seeds/maple syrup/cinnamon, 2 slices of toast and a banana/apple/chia seed smoothie)

[Trozzle]

Sounds like your friend is either exceptionally weak when it comes to dealing with feeling like shit, or she has an underlying issue....or by "just started" you mean has been on it for a week or more I've gone ~40 hours without food when I got my tongue pierced, and didn't have any issues with training even towards the end of the fasted period. Sure I was hungry and felt flat, but I didn't even come close to turning to jelly let alone passing out.

[Frosty]

My friend just started a 1200 calorie a day diet alongside her usual training. She got told she couldn't train at the gym the other day because she nearly fainted doing cardio. She messages me this morning saying she is feeling tired and sick, and went down on her weights last night.

I told her to eat and sent her a photo of my breakfast (cup of oats with chia seeds/maple syrup/cinnamon, 2 slices of toast and a banana/apple/chia seed smoothie)

1200 calorie diet is good depening on what they are eating to get those 1200 calories and what their training is like already

[L33SH]

She trains similar to me; but does more cardio than I do. I eat 1800 calories a day and some days I know I haven't eaten enough.

[L33SH]

Sounds like your friend is either exceptionally weak when it comes to dealing with feeling like shit, or she has an underlying issue....or by "just started" you mean has been on it for a week or more I've gone ~40 hours without food when I got my tongue pierced, and didn't have any issues with training even towards the end of the fasted period. Sure I was hungry and felt flat, but I didn't even come close to turning to jelly let alone passing out.

She's been on it for a week now, she is always messaging me about something/wanting reassurance etc so yeah possibly.

Her message 10 minutes ago:

3 months til summer, panicing I havent got my summer body yet...

[Frosty]

She's been on it for a week now, she is always messaging me about something/wanting reassurance etc so yeah possibly.

Her message 10 minutes ago:

3 months til summer, panicing I havent got my summer body yet...

hahaha. its almost too late to get there but then i dont know what her body is like.

more information on this person. Goal? Current weight?

likely that 1200 calories is to low if the cardio is higher...better to drop to a lower intensity and increase the time they do it if they want to keep that 1200 calorie diet. This will target fat more than heart health which im assuming is what she wants