Gym And Supplement Discussion

[KezR33]

That sounds like a strength training program, I thought your goals was to put on some weight and size?

Oh and Pre-workout supps are pretty good, they do help somewhat. Some people though can't do a workout without them, those are the stim junkies lol

It is a strength program, but I eat for size too.

[some_cs_student]

Strength and size are not completely different goals. Getting stronger nearly always involves more muscle/size

[-FIGJAM-]

thought I would share a lol moment with everyone.

Went to the local supplement shop (wont name names) asked the guy behind the counter about some protein powders, got really confused when he kept on saying that this bottle has 5 liters and this one has 7. Wasn't until I looked at the bottle and asked "do you mean pounds?"

think he was getting confused with lbs and litres...

[Trozzle]

Derp

[Husky33]

sugary drink will give you an energy spike, it will not last very long as sugar is the most simple form of carbohydrates...then you will come down

so we agree then, you can get energy from a drink

[GTR_JOEY]

for sure... if you wanna fill your body with that crap

[Husky33]

I wouldn't call sugar crap, i'd say it's very useful when used right, and we all know the other side to the story

For eg, there's a reason a lot of athletes drink fluids high in sugar while training or competing.

[Trozzle]

Don't forget the stupid amount of caffeine and dimethylamylamine

[GTR_JOEY]

Im saying these so called "energy Drinks" are sh!t for your body

obviously gatorade, staminade drinks are good for training

[NickR33]

nah sport drinks are just lolly water... most people's diets are way too high in processed sugar to start with, sports drinks aren't necessary... just put a little bit of cordial in your water if you need it to be sweet

if you want to be a victim of marketing go right ahead

[Birds]

I get energy drink hangovers if I have more than one of those things lol. Even one is bad.

There's one in particular called Rockstar and whilst tasting better than any other energy drink IMO, it's like drinking liquid sugar.

So yeah, f**k those drinks. Nothing wrong with water, juice and milk. Get sugar from a chocolate bar.

[GTR_JOEY]

once i had 3 cans of mother when i went out..got home before 12,... didnt get to sleep till 5 am the next day lol

[KezR33]

I still have a minor addiction to Mother, even though I don't drink it any more unless I have an assignment due the next day. I remember when I first had Mother it tasted ok, but lets face it, I wasn't drinking it for the taste.

Now Mother is the most god damn awesome tasting thing on the planet. There is no drink out that comes close to how good it tastes.

[GTR_JOEY]

i have to agree.. the new mother is pretty damn awesome, i drink it on road trips and thats about it

[KezR33]

I don't think its so much to do with the new flavour (I never had the old) just that our bodies associate it with our minor addiction, at least my minor addiction anyway. I've never smoked (apart from trying a couple), but I assume ciggarettes taste great to smoker.

[NickR33]

good espresso > anything that comes in a can/bottle (except for beer)

[Birds]

I don't think its so much to do with the new flavour (I never had the old) just that our bodies associate it with our minor addiction, at least my minor addiction anyway. I've never smoked (apart from trying a couple), but I assume ciggarettes taste great to smoker.

Whilst I haven't smoked properly / full time, only the odd toke here and there in conjunction with the happy stuff, I don't think there are many smokers who enjoy the "taste" of cigarettes, you just develop a tolerance to it and the satisfaction / calming effects outweigh any taste. It's like beer for me...I don't really favour the taste over say, soft drinks...but it gets you drunk for cheap, so I'll drink it...thus it doesn't taste like shit anymore, like it did when I was 13 lol.

[Tangles]

the energy comes from within - no drink can give you "extra" energy.

stupid comment was stupid.

sorry. seems there are pre-workout drinks you sip during workouts that help release energy stores.

hit the wall yesterday after 70mins, could have done with some extra energy!! probably because I didnt eat much the night before plus mondays session was heavy. worked though it - had to work out saturday nights drinks.

today had no issues working upper body (after warmup lunges exercises + standing/seated calf raises for 20minutes) for over an hour; had plenty of energy. had to leave legs alone due to patella tendon bruising; not sure if it was 120kg cable leg presses or free weight leg extensions (seperated into bottom half & top half range of motion) that bruised me up a little.

since starting on the jack3d every session (4-5x per week) has been over 90mins. pity Southbound gym is closed tomorrow, hit it up for a heavy session friday and then sunday. Loving it ! Seeing changes now Im 15 sessions in - calves are coming along, small spare tyre is reducing quickly, legs are firm, and back/neck/arms/chest are firming up nicely.

[GTR_JOEY]

alright as promised

first photo of me in the pool is 96kg

second is at 92kg

As you can see, definatly more definition in the arms and in the guts

sorry about the first photo, it was the only one i could find from the holidays where i had my shirt off and could see my fat gut lol

[Birds]

Photos are a bit too different for me to see much of a difference (distance, lighting etc) but it's obviously there if you've dropped 4kg between them.

Edit: in second viewing the arm appears to have a bit more "line" to it in the after shot. Are you planning on cutting anymore?