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depends on how it is supposed to be pronouced. if it is supposed to be pronouced the same as the constelation (oh-ryan) then it is ok as it is completely different.

but then toyota has the ascent (assent) and hyundai has the accent (ack-sent)

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depends on how it is supposed to be pronouced. if it is supposed to be pronouced the same as the constelation (oh-ryan) then it is ok as it is completely different.

but then toyota has the ascent (assent) and hyundai has the accent (ack-sent)

orion.... what a name meh??

You reckon? I can't really see a market for a diesel Falcon. Territory yes, but not so much the Foulcan. Maybe if they continue to be similar it will be easy to bung an oiler in both.

well actually I do see a market here for Diesel.Europeans have been using the stuff for years.In fact the Majority of cars sold there are Diesels.Both Ford and Holden had better realise whats going on in the world.Diesel is only going to get bigger. The way fuel prices are going large engined sedans on petrol will be completely unaffordable very soon.Diesels use so much less and with the technological advances Diesels have made these days accelerate as good and better than the Petrol engine equivalent. Look at what VW has done? their Diesel cars are quicker than the same car with the petrol engine..Howabout Audi winning Le Mans in a Diesel?

well actually I do see a market here for Diesel.Europeans have been using the stuff for years.In fact the Majority of cars sold there are Diesels.Both Ford and Holden had better realise whats going on in the world.Diesel is only going to get bigger. The way fuel prices are going large engined sedans on petrol will be completely unaffordable very soon.Diesels use so much less and with the technological advances Diesels have made these days accelerate as good and better than the Petrol engine equivalent. Look at what VW has done? their Diesel cars are quicker than the same car with the petrol engine..Howabout Audi winning Le Mans in a Diesel?

Yes the euros have been driving diesel cars for yers. But then again if fuel was double the price, the roads half the size & the taxation rates even more stupid than they presently are everyone here would probably be driving a 1 litre diesel Fiat something. And hating it. Not sure if you noticed but diesel prices are in lock step with petrol prices - and it is more expensive & less common (in metro areas). Plus you have to stand in the awful black oil slick & get the stinking sh!t all over your hands every time you fill up. Then there is the noise, the lack of a torque band more than 2000rpm wide, the dodgy resale....

Audi winning Le Mans. That is mostly about weak opposition & stupid rules. Like Le Mans has always been, really.

In any case given that Australia has an abundance of gas it makes sense for Ford to build an engine that runs on LPG. Which they do. So maybe less of the is Euro is good and a little more credence to the local engineers who are building the things.

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:D he's not the one on drugs funky! VE looks like crap! :D

I really like it, does look similar to the BF's in some parts but that's ok, you don't have to go overboard and make a new model look totally different, especially when the BF was such a hit.

Agreed - this new model shits over the VE in the looks department, probably in every other way as well.

On another note, once the V6 has been integrated on the falcons from 2010 onward, guess what the XR6T or G6E Turbo will be having? Yupp.. you guessed it, a twin turbo V6 :D

It will be the same engine from Lincoln MKS that will commence production around 2009.

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The V6 Twin Turbo is called " Twin Force "

TwinForce / EcoBoost

A direct-injected, twin-turbocharged version of the all-aluminum Duratec 35 has been developed, producing 430 hp (321 kW) and 400 lb·ft (542 N·m) of torque. The TwinForce 3.5L V6 is intended to deliver the performance (on demand) of a typical large displacement 6.0 L-class V8, with the normal driving (highway) fuel efficiency of a 3.0 L to 4.0 L class V6.[4][5] The engine is also capable of operating on any mix of E85 ethanol and premium gasoline, and made its debut in the Lincoln MKR concept coupe/sedan, introduced at the 2007 North American International Auto Show.

Gasoline direct injection more precisely manages fuel flow into the cylinders, for more efficient combustion and emissions control, when compared to port injection. Twin-turbocharging forces more air into the engine on demand, allowing additional fuel to be injected and burned, producing more power: 118 hp (88 kW) per liter in the case of the TwinForce. Technologies for the twin turbocharging system were developed in cooperation with Volvo Cars, and the gasoline direct injection system is a joint development between Ford and Bosch based on Bosch DFI systems already in production.

At the 2008 NAIAS, Ford introduced a similar gasoline turbocharged direct injected engine family called EcoBoost, scheduled for production starting in 2009.[6] The EcoBoost family is expected to be available as four-cylinder I4 and six-cylinder V6 versions. The 2010 Lincoln MKS is scheduled to kick off EcoBoost production, with a 3.5L V6 version estimated at 340 hp, in mid-2009. The Ford Explorer America and Lincoln MKT concept crossover utility vehicles, which debuted in the 2008 NAIAS, show a similar displacement GTDI EcoBoost engine with up to an an estimated 415 hp.[7] The company eventually plans to equip a half-million cars and trucks annually with turbocharged EcoBoost engines by 2013.

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