Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 128
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Yep oblivion, i checked before buying that everything is in stock. So the turbo should be here probably monday i'm guessing (maybe tomorrow if im lucky).

I asked HPIAB and to my suprise they have a "real" GT3071R on the shelf ready to go... and yes it is "a 700177-23 core which allows an off the shelf .63 4 bolt" - to quote morrie. This matches up to the garret specs on http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...T30/GT3071R.htm so FINALLY i've bought it (and at a decent price).

Unfortunately, there's no place i know of in melbourne that does these at a decent price - not that i've looked all that hard as i've stuck mostly to online buying. An mate who actually works for Honeywell didn't give me a better price either. Getting them from America is cheap (especially with the current exchange rate) - but they take an absolute hammering during shipping (don't beleive anyone who says otherwise) so stick local!

Yep oblivion, i checked before buying that everything is in stock. So the turbo should be here probably monday i'm guessing (maybe tomorrow if im lucky).

I asked HPIAB and to my suprise they have a "real" GT3071R on the shelf ready to go... and yes it is "a 700177-23 core which allows an off the shelf .63 4 bolt" - to quote morrie. This matches up to the garret specs on http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarre...T30/GT3071R.htm so FINALLY i've bought it (and at a decent price).

Unfortunately, there's no place i know of in melbourne that does these at a decent price - not that i've looked all that hard as i've stuck mostly to online buying. An mate who actually works for Honeywell didn't give me a better price either. Getting them from America is cheap (especially with the current exchange rate) - but they take an absolute hammering during shipping (don't beleive anyone who says otherwise) so stick local!

what price are we talking about (PM me if u like)?

I got a pleasant surprise when i unwrapped my turbo. It is a genuine -23 cart :wave:

And unfortunately even with the garrett turbine housing and .5 A/R cover it still needs a spacer.

But the turbine housing is bollocksing massive! And it's only a .63. All i've dealt with for the last 2 years is my non gated .63 turbine housing and t28 sized ones. This thing is a monster!

edit: lol at the swear subsitution enabled on the forum :wave:

Edited by BHDave
The viewers at home would probably like some snaps of the ID tag and that 0.63 A/R GT30 IW turbine housing so they know one when they see one .

Cheers and thanks , A .

Apologies in advance for the quality of the pics. Low light and phone camera aren't a good combo. At least one of the 3 photos of the tag is partially legible....

DSC00364.jpg

DSC00366.jpg

DSC00369.jpg

Out of interest, does anyone know why garrett make the inlet smaller than a regular t3 size? As i have a spacer i'll be die grinding that to smooth the inlet into the turbo, but it just doesn't make sense to me.

oh yeah. manifold to turbo studs are 1.5 pitch where they screw into the manifold but 1.25 on the other end. just discovered that after buying new long 1.25 studs :thumbsup:

im not sure either BHDave, but i tired diegrinding the spacer and i was there for ages getting no where, i paid 20 bucks for a machinist shop to mill it out for me after i traced an outline of the real flange size onto it.

im not sure either BHDave, but i tired diegrinding the spacer and i was there for ages getting no where, i paid 20 bucks for a machinist shop to mill it out for me after i traced an outline of the real flange size onto it.

goddamnit! This was supposed to be easy! :thumbsup:

what price are we talking about (PM me if u like)?

nah no problem putting it out there:

HPIAB: $1950 ($1750 for external gate)

CRD: $1920 ($1770 for the external wastegate)

APT: US$1449 + US$95 shipping + import duty + GST etc etc

FULL-RACE: US$1149 + all above (didn't reply to any emails).

Looked at ALOT of other places; most didn't have the "real" one, or didn't reply to my questions.

Like i said before, vary wary of overseas shipping of delicate items like a turbo - not only that, you have next to no protection if your stuff isn't right/ get ripped off etc etc.

Edited by -33-

BHDave I think the reason why the Nissan RB20/25 manifold flange is wider than GT30/35 turbine housings is because they are a split pulse design so probably more like a "Euro T4 twin scroll" housing flange pattern than single scroll T3 .

Brett Lloyd once told me that there is lots minor variation like this and another one is the larger T4 and T4 "International" which some call T45 .

Geoff Raicer (FullRace Geoff) had issues with some housings because they are large T4 twin scroll flange and stud holes but with T4 Euro twin inlets .

The problem seems to come from the fact that Garrett is not one company and different parts of it in different parts of the worlds made different things to suit themselves .

Once we start to mix n match different bits things like this are common .

Cheers A .

That actually makes sense when you look at the area of the outlet/inlet. If you allow for the center divider of the stock manifold it's be pretty close in effective area to the single scroll inlet of the new turbo.

im not sure either BHDave, but i tired diegrinding the spacer and i was there for ages getting no where, i paid 20 bucks for a machinist shop to mill it out for me after i traced an outline of the real flange size onto it.

An hour and a half, 1 grinding wheel and 4 beers later i managed to get the spacer flared out to match the gasket. It looks pretty good atm, i'll reassess when i'm sober :) Also did a trial fit, I need to reroute some wiring or i may have some issues when i hit the track and the housing gets warm. It's a pretty tight fit in an r32.

Picked it up today from the depot...

Its an authentic 3071R, code and compressor housing matches BHPDAVE's above (-5023)... but what's the exhaust housing??? Doesn't look the same!!! Its for ext. gate =(

post-34935-1204630919_thumb.jpg

post-34935-1204631024_thumb.jpg

Edited by -33-
An hour and a half, 1 grinding wheel and 4 beers later i managed to get the spacer flared out to match the gasket. It looks pretty good atm, i'll reassess when i'm sober :) Also did a trial fit, I need to reroute some wiring or i may have some issues when i hit the track and the housing gets warm. It's a pretty tight fit in an r32.

haha nice work! yeah i moved my wiriong further up, then insulated with wrap. other then that tho it fits in there nicely!

definately. There's still more room around the turbo than i had with the old kit. It was also a novelty to be able to access 11 of the 12 manifold nuts with a socket from the top. It used to take me 2 hours of swearing and crawling under the car with an open ended spanner to get the old turbo and manifold on. this time it took me about half an hour. I still spent 2 hours reinstalling the bastard water hose that runs across the back of the head....

Intake pipe and hot pipe are just about sorted. just need to find a spot to fit the bov (stupid type R is too big to fit easily if you want it plumbed back). The front half of the front pipe is tacked up. Will be having a go with the wastegate pipe tonight before doing much more with it.

WELL, i just found out that AVO makes a 0.63 internally gated exhaust housing to suit the 3071, with an RB25 dump pattern... AND at the same price as a garret exhaust housing. I'm looking to put either the garret one (requires new dump) or the AVO one on my "real" 3071 (since i don't want the external gate).

Anyone had any experience, info on these??

it may or may not be similar to what i have, exceopt i doubt the AVO wont will cater for the full 60 mm wheel. I have a cropped 3071R with a GCG cast rear housing (OP6 copy) which meets up to rb25 dump and manifold. it is a 0.71 AR. i just dynoed it the other day with cams in it no and made 290 rwkw on 1.2 bar.

personally i think 0.63 is too small for a 25

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Did this end up working? Did you take some pictures?
    • And finally, the front lower mount. It was doubly weird. Firstly, the lower mount is held in with a bracket that has 3 bolts (it also acts as the steering lock stop), and then a nut on the shock lower mount itself. So, remove the 3x 14mm head bolts , then the 17mm nut that holds the shock in. From there, you can't actually remove the shock from the lower mount bolt (took me a while to work that out....) Sadly I don't have a pic of the other side, but the swaybar mounts to the same bolt that holds the shock in. You need to push that swaybar mount/bolt back so the shock can be pulled out past the lower control arm.  In this pic you can see the bolt partly pushed back, but it had to go further than that to release the shock. Once the shock is out, putting the new one in is "reverse of disassembly". Put the top of the shock through at least one hole and put a nut on loosely to hold it in place. Put the lower end in place and push the swaybar mount / shock bolt back in place, then loosely attach the other 2 top nuts. Bolt the bracket back in place with the 14mm head bolts and finally put the nut onto the lower bolt. Done....you have new suspension on your v37!
    • And now to the front.  No pics of the 3 nuts holding the front struts on, they are easy to spot. Undo 2 and leave the closest one on loosely. Underneath we have to deal with the wiring again, but this time its worse because the plug is behind the guard liner. You'll have to decide how much of the guard liner to remove, I undid the lower liner's top, inside and lower clips, but didn't pull it full off the guard. Same issue undoing the plug as at the rear, you need to firmly push the release clip from below while equally firmly gripping the plug body and pulling it out of  the socket. I used my fancy electrical disconnect pliers to get in there There is also one clip for the wiring, unlike at the rear I could not get behind it so just had to lever it up and out.....not in great condition to re-use in future.
    • Onto the rear lower shock mount. It's worth starting with a decent degrease to remove 10+ years of road grime, and perhaps also spray a penetrating oil on the shock lower nut. Don't forget to include the shock wiring and plug in the clean.... Deal with the wiring first; you need to release 2 clips where the wiring goes into the bracket (use long nose pliers behind the bracket to compress the clip so you can reuse it), and the rubber mount slides out, then release the plug.  I found it very hard to unplug, from underneath you can compress the tab with a screwdriver or similar, and gently but firmly pull the plug out of the socket (regular pliers may help but don't put too much pressure on the plastic. The lower mount is straightforward, 17mm nut and you can pull the shock out. As I wasn't putting a standard shock back in, I gave the car side wiring socket a generous gob of dialectric grease to keep crap out in the future. Putting the new shock in is straightforward, feed it into at least 1 of the bolt holes at the top and reach around to put a nut on it to hold it up. Then put on the other 2 top nuts loosely and put the shock onto the lower mounting bolt (you may need to lift the hub a little if the new shock is shorter). Tighten the lower nut and 3 upper nuts and you are done. In my case the BC Racing shocks came assembled for the fronts, but the rears needed to re-use the factory strut tops. For that you need spring compressors to take the pressure off the top nut (they are compressed enough when the spring can move between the top and bottom spring seats. Then a 17mm ring spanner to undo the nut while using an 8mm open spanner to stop the shaft turning (or, if you are really lucky you might get it off with a rattle gun).
    • You will now be able to lift the parcel shelf trim enough to get to the shock cover bolts; if you need to full remove the parcel shelf trim for some reason you also remove the escutcheons around the rear seat release and you will have to unplug the high stop light wiring from the boot. Next up is removal of the bracket; 6 nuts and a bolt Good news, you've finally got to the strut top! Remove the dust cover and the 3 shock mount nuts (perhaps leave 1 on lightly for now....) Same on the other side, but easier now you've done it all before
×
×
  • Create New...